Lee On Solent Saint

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Smashing up their own shithole town after gaining promotion just shows the level of twatness they operate at.

#too scary for words

Brighton seem like they like to retain experience. Offered Milner and Welbeck new deals, so you could be right.

Armstrong up top is just as shite as putting Mara there.

A Armstrong/KWP/THB/Stephens/Smallbone Really hoping it doesn't go that far.

West Ham have always had this utter bullshit notion of being the academy of football, perpetuated by the media. To view Moyes as anything but successful for them is very disrespectful to the guy.

Too many stupid draws from winning positions killed us. Huddersfield/Watford/Middlesborough/Rotherham spring to mind.

This, with the away game against West Brom, probably our most impressive away wins all season.

THB right back, Stephens and Beds central.

Really don't get the love in with Ipswich. Wasn't that impressed with them at St Marys, and we should have beaten them at their place. Would have done if Martin had any proper in game mangement skills.

I might be wrong, but Leicester tend not to concede three/four and five goals in a game. I suspect most of the goals they've conceded are the odd one or two in a game.

Even with that extra time to set himself, he's still missed a fair few chances this season.

But that was at Premier League level. A back four with KWP/THB and Bednarek shouls absolutely no way be conceding over 60 goals in the championship.

I respect your opinion on him, its not one that I agree with. Don't forget he called Baz the best keeper in the League before the start of the season, and he was probably instrumental in our signing of Stewart. With regards to the centre backs, he's been desperate to play one of the ones we bombed out, even if its not at centre back. I don't really see him as engaging either, he comers across as a tad arrogant in his dealings with the media etc.

Real genuine question, but what do you actually see in Martin? Or are you just on the wind up?

Can't wait for Gio's spin on this one.

He's out on his own warming up, looks likely he'll be on

Another bang average visiting team that we somehow contrive to make look good. Been an utter dog shit of a performance.

To the absolute detriment of everything else it seems.

It's not about that in my view. Have a style of play by all means, but there are going to be times when it needs adapting or changing however way a game is going. Martin is not proactive in making changes, tactially niave. Subs are almost like for like. A player is never brought on to help out close a game. its the same system whether we are 3 down or three up.

There is no evidence do suggest that he has or will. We play the same way be it against Leicester or Rotherham. Someone here suggested that we don't even bother to look at opposing teams in teams of how they set up etc. After watching as be completely outplayed by Leicester, I can well believe this.

What makes you think Martin will learn anything from the mistakes of this season? He's been making the same mistakes nigh on since February and probably before. What's going to change in the close season? There is no in game management, subs for the sake of making subs, bizarre team selections and absolutely zero flexiability in a system. Week in and week out we do the same shit over and over again regardless of the opposition. A defence boasting the likes of KWP and THB should not be conceding over 60 goals.I mean Leicester have had Vestergaard playing cente half and they aren't anywhere near that total. As others have stated, next season is going to be more of the same, with lesser quality players.

Surely though what is served up on the pitch is going to have a effect on the crowd? The way we have played at times this season has been flat and so pedestrian that it's little wonder that the atmosphere has been the same. And why shouldn't Martin be criticised when he fails to react to situations?

A few goals? We've got one of the worst defensive records in the league, only 7 teams have conceded more than we have. For a back four that boasts KWP, THB and Bednarek that's shocking. These are good players, especially for the Championship, they should not be shipping the amount of goals we do.