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I was thinking that, as a free agent, he'd get better offers from somewher than what we should be paying him in the Championship. Perhaps he will be more willing because of club connections, but he could just as easily leave this basket case for somewhere abroad.

That post was enough to unsettle me 🙂

If Jesse Marsch was seen going in for talks now, would you prefer him or Martin?

Of course, a gazmilltrillion isn't what it used to be. It takes more than that to keep up these days. Just ask those guys over there, cooking the Man City books to avoid profitability and sustainability rules by at least that much. 🙂

Yeah, and not knocking your opinion on it at all. Just letting my inner voice get typed. 🙂

The club will have made their decision before season's end, tell Selles goodbye, and then announce his replacement. Possibly on full time on the last day, but no reason why it can't be before, if say it leaked. It's not likely to unsettle the team into a defeat, when they are so capable of doing that anyway.

Plucky underdog team reaches glory on a shoestring, giving something for their most special of fans to cheer, because it means more to them than other clubs. What's not to love...oh wait, I had it on for 10mins and turned off when Murphy came on. 🙂

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If rumours of dressing room standards are true, Theo could do nothing to impose the standards we should have had as basics, let alone those he would have experienced elsewhere. He was a high earner, that we were trying to move on. It would have to be a heck of a lot less for us to be picking him up for the Championship. There may even be some residual desire to get shot of him now, since they couldn't before. Despite looking like one of our brighter players recently, it's an incredibly low bar. It would be tough to say his time with us has been a success for any party. No idea if he's interested in coaching badges, but we could do without coaching passengers when doing our staff clear out. Sure he's a lovely bloke, and still has skill, but it would have to be a cracking deal for us in terms of wages, to sign him again.

Easy to think, the way he seamlessly carried on our dreadful form, that he'd been here for a lot longer. 🙂

Webber: I don't mind being a human shield. So brave Webber: I've been to the city centre three times, twice to feed homeless people. So selfless Webber on racist abuse: I'm in a privileged position So woke On the club's finish: Up until the last but one game we were right in the race for the top six. So delusional. They were so tepid and off the pace, that you're think Webber was just off being at our club for a run in. In an interview where, as a club employee he's a bit too honest in a part of it and says he's not keen on visiting the centre of. He says they don't have to sell, while highlighting the players he wants to sell: He slates the tactics that got them relegated last time, although made no attempt to have a word while it was going on. This guy's so off in his own world, he might as well change his name to Rasmus. 🙂

Depends if he meets the new manager's tactics. AA is going to need lots of creative support, and therapy to replace shattered confidence.🙂 He's a willing enough runner, but he'd be expected to finish if it's one up front. He'd have to be able to deliver if playing deeper. Finishing and creativity haven't really stood out for him. He could still have a role, if it's Big Paul who goes as not a fit, or if we get a good offer for Adams. We're going to need some depth.

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If he came in to find his car parking space gone to a mysterious Mr Martin, then a few days later his office, then his training bibs while no one told him what for, that might be pretty poor. The club must have succession plans in place. That's going to mean talks. The club may sound out others, but stick with him. He got the job, not because no-one else would touch us, but because the deal we offered wasn't considered to be good enough. That combined with paying off other managers and upper level splits got him in. I don't think he's an idiot. I'm sure he has some strengths. But his tactic of choice was doomed from the start, as it was when he was advising Ralph. Regardless of how close the underlying data told him we were, common sense and a reality check would have told him it wasn't going to work. To not change, even with the very limited attacking options we had, is where he was wrong, and, if the articles are right, failure to set higher standards buried him, as surely as it did Jones. Someone who looks like the poster child for selecting the manager profile in FM, along with lots of data analysis and Premier League experience at a self inflicted basket case club, will surely get him a manager's job somewhere. Somewhere, where his tactic will work and suits the players he gets. But I'm not sorry he's moving on. I'm not thrilled with the way we had coaches from earlier regimes at odds with the incoming manager. So, he shouldn't be staying as a coach, which he's said he's not doing anyway. It's just turned out to be divisive, and we've been divided enough. EDIT: I agree about SR. 🙂

Not that I've seen loads, but I can't think of any dressing room team talks that haven't had a bit of cringe. Essentially a group of players who have to sit there and take whatever is coming out of their manager's mouth. Whether it's anger and swearing, buzz words and X numbers or inspirational quips taken straight off of posters in the gym. Quiet players with barely any interaction, generally looking like they are counting the seconds until their boss shuts up, while hoping they aren't singled out in front of the cameras. I did prefer to see Martin's smaller area, which at least have some impression of togetherness. Not do keen on a manager having to give a team talk in something as big as a conference room, where he has to raise his voice just to cover the distance to the furthest away players. It's nice to see a constructive talk. With whatever squad we're left with, and SR finally managing not to screw up a window, we should be looking to go straight back up. That's going to take a different team talk to the one we're seeing here (which is not to say he can't do those too.) He will have to set standards of promotion and Premier League expectations. Since he was part of a team that capitulated on a regular basis, I'd be interested to find out if he learned how to stop it, considering he'll be managing us.

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I've never thought of him as front footed or aggressive enough as a manager. Until then, he'll have to settle for being towards the top of the Premier League and Champions League football. 🙂

I'll thank you to be respectful to the next wave of Man City super stars we're going to be signing for next season. 🙂

If they keep it down to six and can get us a couple of attacks I'd hope the club are in touch with Mr Martin to tell him that the vacancy has been filled. 🙂

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Surely they both have to start in the final game so we can give their service the send off it deserves? As you pointed out, they were both key in scoring today, even though one did get chalked off, and that was more than anyone else managed to do. Starting with the youngsters, who may not be completely familiar with the intircacies of SellesBall may have led to a hammering. That wouldn't have helped us, our cherished ability to only lose narrowly, Selles' showreel and most importantly it might have had an impact on the kids' development. Other, more senior players ahve to learn that it's what they show in training that counts. They shouldn;t be getting ahead of hard working players like Mo and Theo. That sends a bad message to the others. Before you know it, a number of them won't be putting in any effort outside of instagram and stinking up the dressing room. And that could impact results.

C'Mon guys! Do ti for the club... do it for the fans... compromise on a four year deal. 🙂

Hey! Last time I entertian you in the match thread! And there's certainly no entertainment watching it, so you'll have nothing. 🙂

Possibly never good to think about this right after a match. Especially is the answer is “any of them.” But not in an “I want to see the back of all of them” sort of way (>cough<). Just that there’s just a load of possibilities, considering a new manager, a new league, players on reduced wages and those contracts being a year further on. Out of Contract (and not likely any will be re-signing, even on vastly reduced terms): Willy Caballero; Ainsley Maitland-Niles (end of loan); Mohamed Elyounoussi; Theo Walcott 1 Year Left (and we should be cashing in, while we can as none are indispensable) Alex McCarthy; Jack Stephens; Mohammed Salisu; Ibrahima Diallo; Will Smallbone Jake Vokins; Thierry Small; Stuart Armstrong; Ché Adams; Dan Nlundulu Of these, I’d not mind McCarthy, Adams, Smallbone, Small or Stephens getting an extension. With Stu, it’s more of a fitness thing, and that is one of the things that’s impacted his form. Of those on longer contracts:- Kyle Walker-Peters; Romain Perraud; Lynaco; Jan Bednarek; Nathan Tella; Armel Bella-Kotchap; James Ward-Prowse; Roméo Lavia have all had some paper talk, or could be reasonably expected to get snapped up for a good fee to stay in a top league (here or in Europe) I'd be expecting to see Tino and Alcaraz here next season. Both on long contracts and I'd think both of their development paths would be better served with us for another year. It would take a lot less interest in the others, and a very big offer to expect them to leave. That’s a large number of potential outgoings, and we’re not likely to see them all leave. We may have no takers for Diallo. We may get low offers for Perraud or others, and they stay to see out their contracts or for the next window. We shouldn’t be giving away some players on the cheap, just because they are desperate to leave, if we’ve not had a suitable offer. At the same tiem, tehre are some players who are not likely to feature we can be flexible on, just to trim the squad down. Others are tactical, and depend a lot on the incoming manager. If it’s Russell Martin, does he play wide players or is that a role to be filled by attacking full backs? Is his lone central striker to receive deliveries form deep, wide positions, or from attacking wide positions. Is he supposed to be holding the ball up for others? Depending on that, you could see more recent arrivals surplus to requirements, and for everyone’s benefit would look to go. Kamaldeen Sulemana, Joe Aribo and Paul Ounachu could be joining Mislav Oršić, who surely has to be going. Another aspect of this is simply, what does it take to get out of the Championship? Our analytics and scouting teams will hopefully have been learning all about our destination in recent weeks. Martin (assuming it’s him) hasn’t managed a team into the Premier League, and the club should be working flat out to see what works best around his tactics. With the size of squad we are going down with, we have to fashion the core of the one that’s coming straight back up. It’s not enough to assume that whoever we are left with, which will easily have the numbers to fill the majority of a squad, will be good enough or suitable to bounce back up. We need to identify the personnel to fit the tactics to be successful. That may push players who we currently have towards the door as they’re just not what we need. Whether we can get any of them through that door, is another thing. We've not seen much of teh youth players this season. But there will surely be squad places for a few in the Championship. The club's recruitment can be tweaked to trim the excess in poistions where's we've talent coming through (if any ready yet) Whatever happens, we’re going to need strengthening defensively in the middle of the park, we need to be able to use the attacking players we have or get in additions and we desperately need goals. Looking at who’s likely to stay with us, and the number of goals we’re going to need to get promoted, we either find a way of using Big Paul or we have to be looking elsewhere. If it’s elsewhere, then we may be telling some of the forwards we have, that they won’t be getting minutes, and they should get their agent working away for a new home. So, I’d be expecting lots of activity. A fair bit will depend on timings of offers. We may have to have a lot of irons in a lot of fires due to uncertainty on which of our current players are likely to be snapped up. But there are enough obvious gaps in the squad as it stands now, to get started. Hopefully, SR will manage to avoid 1) Smugly assuming a deal is done for a striker at the end of a window, before the player is actually here and 2) Buying in a striker before promptly changing the manager and tactic that’s not going to work with him.

for a while, and then we'd be as fickle as everyone else. 🙂