Ken Tone

http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/news/local/thief-shops-himself-1-4005871 Good to see the intelligence of Portsmouth inhabitants spreads to Gosport too!

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Are they easy to get?

Have a Saints-supporting colleague who is due to retire soon. Any suggestions please for a gift? He is not the type to wear 'colours' and all the 'history of the club' books etc that I'm aware of, have been out for some time, so I suspect he has them already. Or is there anything recent? It will be paid for by quite a generous collection, so price isn't too big a problem. Thanks

Actually I've just parked ok -- though it did cost £7 which may explain why there were spaces!

Any Basingstoke residents able to tell me whether the station car parks fill up, or whether I can expect to find a place as late as 10ish on a weekday morning? Thanks

Sorry about that. I'm clearly better at bird-watching than basic IT.

Here is a photo of a sparrowhawk inn my garden

Peregrines take their prey in the air. Much more likely to be a sparrowhawk on a bird table --always assuming it wasn't just a buzzard, which are by far the most common bird of prey and do feed on carrion and scraps on the ground. You're only likely to see a peregrine on the ground if it is eating a small bird that it has brought down in flight. Sparrowhawk is quite grey and stripey, with bare legs.

3 years does seem harsh ,but we do not know what the whole case was. All we've seen is a short newspaper report -not usually the mostly reliable source! It would appear though that it was not one silly remark as some posters have said , but several which sound more than just silly, including ..... "When told to shut up by a friend, the 21-year-old replied: ''LOL (laugh out loud) - do a few coppers in.'' Southampton Crown Court heard how he then made another post encouraging an attack on Muslim people. "...... ....which if reported accurately does deserve some sort of sentence, even if not 3 years.

Can anyone tell me how these MPs expect Birch to give consideration, fair or otherwise, to a bid from the trust when the trust has not actually made any bid? (In spite of saying they would definitely bid within 7 days, 10 days ago!)

Been away for a week. Looking at the news, it would appear nothing has changed. The trust has already missed its own 7 day deadline to bid http://www.pompeytrust.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=409:pst-statement-080612&catid=34:demo-category No player has left. It is still an impasse. Have I missed anything?

I don't think the 2p or the 3p in the pound is the real issue. It's the £18.3 million owed to Chainrai, which Birch seems to have negotiated to Fratton plus £8.3 million -- and of course the big earners. The trust will have to cover that debt to Chainrai somehow, as well as the money to the other creditors.

The summary of assets, page 43 ,seems to me to value Fratton Park at £10 million, but leaving chainrai to claim a further £8.3 million from the £14 million parachute payments still due. Am I reading that right? If so he gets the ground plus £8.3 million in return for his £500k and promises to cover football creditors' debt .. IF those come down to a level he is prepared to accept. Not bad deal for him if the FC debts aren't too high. 3 years of covering a bit of loss, but with £8.3 million to outweigh that, then he can liquidate anyway, wait a bit to get planning, and then sell the ground for building land.

Have we ever had the definitive answer to what the players get if the club is liquidated? That is absolutely crucial. The football creditors rule becomes irrelevant is there is no club, so it comes down to whether the PFA or the PL/FA?FL would use the remainaing parachute payments or some sort of insurance fund to pay them off. In short if the players will get most of or all of their money regardless, then they really are toast. If however Birch can really threaten "sign a compromise agreement or we go bust and then you get nothing", then it is only a matter of brinkmanship and agreeing amounts.

So how do they get round this clause? Surely if Ben Haim etc just say 'no' the whole thing is scuppered anyway? That the Administrators agree compromise agreements with the PFA, certain players and certain employees for all outstanding amounts of salaries, bonuses, future contractual rights and all other forms of remuneration or income of certain players and certain employees. For the avoidance of doubt, it shall be the sole responsibility of the Administrators to agree the above compromise agreements and in the event that the Administrators fail to agree these compromise agreements, there shall be no obligation on the Purchaser to complete on the SPA .

The best threads on here are the ones where some people are having laugh, others are deadly serious, and some others get really wound up as if it really matters. Not that this is at all relevant at the moment of course. Personally I will kitting myself out with a few nice new cardigans from the Edinburgh Wool shop and some warm corduroy trousers with elasticated waist. Not that anyone will see the trousers once I'm in the ground, because of the tartan rug

Did you read the second part of my post? I pretty much agree with you! I'm a big fan of Kelvin's. The first part was to counter another poster's claim that Green is 'gash' and was 'only in the England squad because of the lack of decent english keepers'.

It is hard to believe that the trust haven't got hold of some details by now. Nearly as hard to believe as the notion that the trust might actually make a realistic bid!

To be honest he could be standing next to me now, and I'd be none the wiser. Young, tall bloke, presumably not in football shirt, doesn't narrow it down much. Tell you what, I'll ask every young bloke I see who they are. I'm sure that will end well!

I see the Tory 'survival of the fittest' principle still lives within you Dune, in spite of what you've said. I suspect you mean to say "pre-dates" not "predates", but your sub-conscious won!

Hope you're right. We certainly do need pace. When you compare championship sides and premier league sides, apart from the obvious stand-out stars that some PL teams have, the big difference is often pace.

Well let's face it, these journalists won't really have detailed chapter and verse of exactly what/where/when. The most likely explanation, if they know anything at all, is that they've heard he's down here sometime about now and over the weekend, and there's been a bit of 'chinese whispers' over the precise timings, or they've guessed a bit from the little they do know -- or indeed the timings may simply have changed a bit for entirely trivial reasons.

It still worries me that we 'targetted' Clyne in our match against them, putting high balls to Lambert near him, which Rickie won nearly every time. How would he do against the likes of Carroll or Crouch etc?

But every England manager thinks he is better than Kelvin, since they pick him rather than Kelvin. Sorry mate, but I suspect they are better judges than you. However, part of me would be a bit disappointed if we did sign him. I think Davis is up to it in the PL, for a year or two yet anyway, and deserves the chance to prove it. Besides a player who rejects a contract offer from West Ham (aka 'the new Pompey') is unlikely to be happy with our wage offer