Ken Tone

Dont forget AA mysteriousy found some extra creditors thereby making the HMRc share too small to outvote the others in CVA1. It may be quite difficult to find them again!

Shocking

Can we choose which fan?

I often think in the euphoria of any club's promotion, especially at play-off finals, as the players celebrate wildly on the pitch, but actually, how many of you will be playing in the higher league? There are some players who seem to get promotion with club after club but are just not considered good to enough to play a division up. Mind you, my sympathy for them is tempered a bit by realising that they'll get a huge promotion bonus anyway!

But after the 28 days is up, what then? Must chainrai go ahead with his offer (if his conditions have been met) , or can he withdraw, or can he just wait for as long as he likes before doing anything definite?

Yes but he's under 24 ,so if PFC offer him a contract extension and he goes elswhere they are entitled to compensation - either agreed between the clubs or at tribunal

In any normal circumstance I'd agree with you Minty. However, contracts of such gargantuan scale as this are virtually impossible to monitor, especially if the contractor spins a line. IMO we should not be letting issues such as this go to the private sector in the first place, and I'm extremely worried that political dogma seems to be leading us to do similarly daft things to the NHS.

Anyway, to return to Buttner (how do I type an umlaut?) In the radio interview last (?) week, his agent said, yes, that the' third party issue' was now resolved, but then said something dodgy about now only wanting saints to pay in fewer installments than was originally agreed. That did not sound like an "only" issue to me, so it does not surprise me that he has not yet since signed...and may not sign at all.

Are you certain of this VFTT? I had a 'discussion' with one of their Trust blokes recently where he claimed that the 28 days was only about a period of exclusivity for Chainrai , and that when that was waived to allow the trust to bid as well, the 28 day deadline disappeared. The BBC report at the time did say the trust had to bid within the 28 days or Chainrai's bid would go ahead, but this bloke was adamant that the BBC were wrong. But when I asked , so is there any time limit by which Chainrai has to make good on his bid and actually buy the club, he ... err ... 'declined to answer' ! The trust's own bid has been "about to go in as a firm bid" for as long as I can remember. I think the reality is either a) they just don't have enough money and their rich partners are fiction, or b) they will not make their bid firm until after the big wage players leave -- if they do. Anyone here know the rules on CVAs? Is Clapham Saint around?

Funny, isn't it, how those that moan about the public sector, forget that whenever the private sector ****s up like this, it has to be the public sector that bails us out. The profit motive isn't always the best way to run a society.

Blimey! Someone in "taking a Turkish comment seriously" shock!

Surely there must be some other multi-millionaire Old Etonian he could bring into the cabinet instead?

Might be taken more seriously if 'inconsistent' were not inconsistently spelt incorrectly.

Ah newsthump .. always worth a look

Quite. This reads very much like the player was stupid enough to sign away some rights to an agent or similar, then was even more stupid and forgot this in the negotiations. Can't see how Cortese can be blamed ,even by Turkish's weird standards. Vitesse's statement makes it pretty clear they see Saints as blameless.

Fourth signing? Are they counting Buttner as a done deal?

So where will they turn up for training? Thought they had no training ground at present ,since King Edward's finally threw them out?

Recently saw 2 blokes ignoring the range of fruit juices and tea/coffee on offer with their hotel cooked breakfast, to drink instead large 'buckets' of coke. Now that's weird.

Mind you that could be affected by the fact that the suicide rate in Sweden is roughly twice that in the UK. Norway's rate isn't much better btw. (It's about 3 times as high in Finland. Of course Finland and Sweden are Gove's great exemplary models of how English education should be developing, but hey ho...it would keep the unemployment figures down.)

Crisps aren't particularly fattening as such. Yes, proportionately high in fat, but there isn't much substance in a packet so you aren't actually consuming much fat in absolute trms. (Try crushing one small and see how little there actually is in a packet) However each packet contains loads of salt. So you will die of a heart attack before you get too fat --- look on the bright side eh?

Don't forget that actually they still have 10 very highly paid, ex championship, or even ex-PL, players on their books , plus some 'promsing youngsters'. So apart from the lack of a goalie they could actually put out a very good team by L1 standards if the season started tomorrow. So there is no need for them to recruit anybody yet ..not until they actually get rid of some of the big earners. Once they do, I suspect the FL will reconsider. And they will always let clubs sign a keeper in an emergency. All this story tells us is that the FL is not letting them sign replacements for players that haven't gone yet. Well, whoopy do!

You may have to enlarge that a bit.

My father was on Artic Convoy escort duty in a tiny little corvette. He had a medal from Russia that he was not even allowed to wear in the UK. Any belated recognition now by our government will be too late for him. Glad to see the few survivors of bomber command getting recognition. The death rate for them was appalling. Of course the civilian deaths were dreadful. War is dreadful.

Quite. Or it may even be that say 7 or 8 of the high earners that are currently on contract do a deal and get very little, then the 2 or 3 remaining get loads of money. That makes the players even more likely to hang on. PLUS there is a faint hope that the PFA may get some money out of the parachute payments in liquidation. Who is going to blink first?

Putting aside the obvious case for the doorman using their discretion in this case, the banning of uniforms is a rather illogical ruling anyway. If a group of squaddies is going to go into a bar and cause trouble , they're going to be a lot harder to trace and a lot harder for MPs to identify if they are not wearing uniform.