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A charter that didn't exist for this season until it was highlighted by this case, so at least it had some direct benefit. Many thanks for the pleasantries by the way. I am fully aware that some of what I am saying is unpalatable, we would hate this to happen to ourselves but there must be a reason and you do not get stung by the hornets nest unless you provoke it. Thank heavens the art of polite conversation isn't dead. We wonder why the forum is losing popularity....

Both things that happened back in the summer. Now 6-7 months ago. But yes, the PR policy is still in something of a hangover. Staying quiet though appears to be the way of things. (Not saying it's right..... before anyone jumps on me...)

As you say. For the club to speak.

Maybe so. But please, Steve. I'm just trying to reason why this may happen. If I'm wrong I am wrong. We do not know why this has happened. All we say about this is speculation but seemingly it is easier to side with a fellow fan rather then reason that it may actually have been something they have done to provoke the reaction. I can understand that, we are all fans.... we would hate to be in that situation. Just because I am theorising that maybe Nick Illingsworth is not as innocent as first appears it doesn't mean that I should be called 'judge jury and executioner.' This is a forum, a debate. Not everything in life is kittens and roses.

No need for that Gemmel. My personal feelings about Illingsworth are obvious but the fact remains he must have done something wrong to provoke this. To provoke a reaction like this it must have been something serious. When you do something of this nature it would be highly unlikely that you wouldn't be aware of it. I have stated that this is my personal opinion. Challenge it as you wish, this is after all a forum. We're all adults here arn't we? But to react like that is frankly offensive. Apologise.

Therein lays the key point. We will not be in his position. You only lose the ability to buy a season ticket if you have done something wrong. What did he do wrong and why are the club resisting to comment? The club not commenting is consistent behaviour. (Even if it is viewed as distasteful right now.) So, He did something wrong.

I see your point. The problem is though, while this entity can rule on the ethical grounds of which we are all aware it doesn't tackle to route cause of the issue... just suggests the solution which is obvious to everyone. In short, it's not worth the paper it's printed on. Only when the reason is known will we be able to say who was 'wrong.'

Unless he wanted to appear innocent of something? The club may have already agreed not to comment to allow a gracious saving of face. Or they may be continuing their stated policy of not responding to every idle rumour/story. The club's consistency of behaviour could be working absolutely to Illingsworth's advantage. I would rather believe the club then a chairman of a meaningless entity that claims to represent those that it painfully obviously doesn't.

I don't for a second think he needs to be told. This story does not add up. Cortese is not an idiot, he wouldn't allow the revokation of a season ticket holders ability to buy unless there is reason to. Equally, Illingsworth pleads ignorance and is claiming to be victimised. Something must have happened to trigger this. If Illingsworth really doesn't know or at the very least have an inkling I would be absolutely gobsmacked.

I'm sorry, but if you had your ability to buy a season ticket removed you will surely know why. The club are staying quiet, that's their perogative. While Illingsworth himself stays quiet he can plead ignorance until the cows come home. He should be grateful, the club are sparing his blushes. (This my take on the situation.... not fact, just my reasoned opinion. You do not get stopped from buying a season ticket unless there is a good reason!)

A defunct organisation chaired by a nobody. No wonder they treat 'The Saints Trust' with credibility.

Quite right, back on track.

Yes, In the same way I would be upset if anyone misrepresented me. It's pretentious and damn right rude.

Yes, it is somewhat. Just like the same thread when this first broke.

This, he willing perpetuates the myth that he actually represents something other then just his own opinion. If the club started randomly withdrawing season tickets from people who kept themselves to themselves I would worry. But him? Nah.

It seems we all had the wrong idea when David Lampitt left the FA to join the Skates. He isn't trying to save them, he is trying to ensure their filthy hides are driven out of existence for good. Double agent Lampitt, continue your good work.

Winchester is a tricky one.... Although you are more likely to find a 'quiet' pub there. I would suggest looking just off the high street. The Royal Oak perhaps. The best pub though is 'The Eclipse' but it only has terrestrial. Southampton would be a better bet.

Just wondering Valesaint, was the guy in question here Scottish?

16, And the final remnant itself of the entity that was the Lotus Formula 1 team. But who's counting? The exhaust system in place on the new Renault is fascinating though. Great logic but will it reap rewards?

Well, they've charged it to my card now. Oh well. It was nice while it lasted.

There's no crime in supporting the largest team in your local area and having a soft spot for your 'home town' team. The difference in league status is so great that there surely cannot be a conflict of interest. My Dad lives in King's Worthy and sometimes watches Winch play. (Quite a nice walk down to be honest....) Yet he has a season ticket at Saints. Where's the harm?

Errr. 2.

How about just making it so that the subscription pays for access at crucial times. E.g. Matches Transfer deadline day Important breaking news. Anything that could overload a server really. It would ensure that there can be all the access people need day to day while ensuring paying members get their money worth at crucial times. If you are not a paid member at these times... Sorry but there's only so much room!

Hi Nick. 10,000 or so others had no problem. Including those who are far more prominent in fans circles. So why him? He will have crossed the line somewhere. Our current administration may be occasionally haphazard with their PR but as proven since they have taken over the actions they do commit to are for good reason. He's not been banned from the stadium, just from purchasing a seaon ticket. There will be a damned good reason I'm sure.

+1 He can f**k off. Good work Nicola in refusing him a season ticket.