Saint-Fred

The two totals will need to match after the final game so am I right in thinking the deficit will be 22 points (we won the last three last season) minus whatever we get between now and the end of the season? so about 15 to 18 points deficit I reckon.

Yes but we aren't going to win the league are we? He isn't even competing for 7th. You have used an extreme..reality is mid table is about right for a realistic goal for us. As such finishing mid table is the standard, playing half way entertaining football is what we should be able to expect.

Hmmm you have been quite selective with your Signings... 26 is young for a keeper btw, how old was VVD? Clasie, Cedric etc etc Surely the nature of our system of selling our best players means we can't afford a manager who needs years to build a team as we rebuild every summer?

Obviously not!

Isn't the point of #wemarchon that sometimes we will go backwards, personnel will change but the goal always remains the same? So I think it is more relevant now than when we are doing well?

Hmmmm..alternatively people's expectations aren't and have never been too high and the reason people are unhappy has nothing to do with league position? Yet people like you keep totally missing the point and pointing out that only the position in the league is what matters?

You have your view but resorting to calling his critics" ranty nobheads " and later arguing that you can't find someone with a reasoned argument just shows you up as an imbecile. I am glad we are doing as well as you expected.. Personally I have a whole list of reasons why I think we are under performing and not one of them involves league position. I don't think we have a right to anything higher than 10th however league position is not the only measure. Do you Ben go to the games?

Yes you are right, that's the reason....it could only have been worse if we had a manager who couldn't even speak English! Such a thing has never ever happened in the history of football!

Don't take it to heart, he is talking ****e..there will always be the few but 99.99% couldn't care less what nationality the manager or the players are as long as they are doing the job. He is trying to deflect from Puel doing a poor job by insulting people and throwing totally unfounded accusations. That's pretty low IMO.

Yes, you are right..he is our first foreign manager so it's obvious that's why people want him gone.

Hard one to call.. To ensure goals..I will predict 0-0

Fair point, when we were in the Europa league it was like that..once we were out though, he either didn't know his strongest team or he continued to rotate if I remember rightly.

Not me..any points dropped by Liverpool at his stage of the season is most welcome..and one for us means we didn't lose ground to most of those around us, who pretty much all drew yesterday too..

The link contains the total games played including elf etc and we have played only 4 more than Liverpool who haven't even been in Europe.. We are the team which has played the sixth most in the division. The number of games played is a total red herring to our season IMO and just an excuse used to justify an over rotation of the team which meant we rarely played our best team. Say what you like about Koeman but he prioritised the league and played our best team in the league every week and he was clear that was his priority.

Fair enough..we agree to disagree..I can think Puel is not the right manager for us without you saying i am a bedwetter etc and you can think everything is good and I won't call you a happy clapper! Lol all is well in the world! :-)

http://talksport.com/football/premier-league-clubs-ranked-total-games-played-201617-least-most-170428237203?p=14 Six in the number of games played..It's not really an insane amount of extra games though really? 4 more than Liverpool who didn't have Europe, less than Leicester...

O I respect your view but mine is that I think Puel is an ok manager but is more likely to take us down then keep us mid table.. I think all the things you list above are just excuses for his deficiencies. Why can't YOu acknowledge I am perfectly entitled to my opinion and stop name calling, putting words into people's mouths and accusing people with a different opinion to you of being skates or idiots?

Two points per game average is top 6 form so think that is a bit ambitious. So I think 4 points from boro and Stoke, 3 points from arsenal, Man u and Liverpool (1 win 2 losses)... So 7 points. 48 points and 9th.

I don't think anyone expects that but you carry on putting word in other people's mouths and pretending everything is good.

That's probably more to do with the pressure of having to win every single game for months now. Chelsea know they can afford a slip, Spurs knew as soon as they slipped up they were effectively finished.

In what way are Spurs paying for their CL and EL campaigns? They just won 9 out of their last 10 premier league games.... They really had no right to get as close as they did to Chelsea but a fantastic run of form has got them close. Losing last night wasn't anything other than one of those nights...you know we all have them.. Chelsea lost two league games recently..one at home to palace..

Alisher Apsalyamov

It's quite a low total for mid table this year but we could still end up with 50 odd points so we will have to wait and see...funny thing about our away form is that if we compared the same top 11 we got very little against the top 7 ( 2 points is it?) then beat the three directly around us! It is surely our home form which has seen us drop considerably from previous years points tallys though!

Niall Quinn

TBF her bank balance is her fathers legacy rather than any company..I am sure she thought about those people she was putting out of work but ultimately she has to look after her own family first rather than a bunch of strangers. There don't appear to many other options to sell to, and with the team going backwards it is likely waiting for a better buyer will only see the price she gets decreasing.