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Sour Mash just doesn't want Muslims in the country. No amount of posts explaining why they aren't all guilty / complicit will change that. However he also doesnt want to say what he would do about the 'problem' as he knows advocating forced deportations or banning Mosques wouldnt go down well.

I'm pleased there are ten photos, including six of the remaining cake from different angles. Its important to be properly informed.

Its interesting. There are so many sects and different traditions within Islam, much more divergence than Christianity. I have no idea how meaningful it is.

Thats what happens when a social scientist, a psychologist and a biologist write a paper on climate change. I did enjoy the authors other research on call centres and knee motion measurements though.

I wouldnt be surprised if Fonte wanted to bring his kids up Portuguese and move them now before its an upheaval. Pelle, well over 30 is usually past your peak for a striker...

A good article about Wahhabism and explanation of how it has spread here http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/saudiarabia/12206377/What-is-Wahhabism-The-reactionary-branch-of-Islam-said-to-be-the-main-source-of-global-terrorism.html

Okay - a backlash with no marching, no ads in paper, no speeches and no violence. Music? - Rock Against Beheadings? Dead Aid?

I don't know what he was expecting. Perhaps moderate muslims forming vigilante patrols and lynching anyone who looks shifty. Maybe some mosque against mosque wars?

You not able to work google? Took me 10 seconds to find these examples http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/hundreds-muslims-marching-against-terrorism-6977099 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3323372/Paris-terror-attacks-British-Muslim-groups-advert-unreservedly-condemning-violence.html http://thinkprogress.org/world/2015/11/14/3722277/muslims-condemn-paris-attacks-pope-francis/ http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/paris-attacks-muslims-around-world-react-islamic-state-massacre-1528759

Recording a modest profit but it seems to me the figures have been flattered by a one off injection of £3m (Tescos?). Despite that there was big reduction in cash in year of £1.3m. Any qualified accountants got a view?

Can you find the quote and where he said it? Seems to me as though its made up. Who'd have thought? "The quote is often misascribed to Jean Monnet — in fact it is a paraphrase of a characterization of Monnet's intentions by British Conservative Adrian Hilton." http://europa.hs-pforzheim.de/jeanmonnet_biography.html https://eufundedproeutroll.wordpress.com/2014/05/28/european-union-what-did-monnet-say-about-europes-nations-and-the-superstate/

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It largely bears out what Ive been saying and the opposite of your claims. It says terrorists are almost all employed in low grade jobs and have little religious literacy. Indeed MI5 says there is evidence that a well-established religious identity actually protects against violent radicalisation. Some are involved in drug-taking, drinking alcohol and visiting prostitutes. It doesnt deal with the question of criminal records, which is a pity. The report is 8 years old, so things may have changed.

Spot on as always Johnny. Have another rail at something no-one has said. Who has made excuses for them? who has said its because of a poor background? The point was that western born terrorists are usually misfits often with a criminal past. Their profiles prove that. All the Brussels and Paris attackers fit that description and the only UK terrorists who werent came to the UK from abroad. Three of the 7/7 group were extremely young, 18 and 19. 7/7 only one of the four had held a regular job, as a teaching assistant - and he was sacked from that. Two of them had criminal convictions, the eldest had a history of drugs and street fights. Lee Rigby killers: Both were drug dealers who had spent time in jail. Adebowale had a history of mental illness, claiming to hear the voices of spirits in prison. He suffered a breakdown after seeing a fellow teenage drug-dealer cut to pieces by a paranoid crack addict. Adebolajo became known to police for involvement in violent crime. Friends said he was part of a group that stole mobile phones and threatened people with knives. He went to Greenwich University but left the course before his third year. Neither held down a job. Glasgow Airport. Both of the bombers were born and grew up outside of Britain - in Iraq and India and were radicals long before entering Britian.

I cant find the link now, but there was an interesting piece on the BBC a while ago interviewing an Afghan who had fought with three different militias - local warlords, Taliban and Al Queda and had now joined the local police. His choices were entirely pragmatic - they were the only employment choices for people without land, if you want to feed your family you joined up and when one force faded away you joined the new one. Ideology didnt seem to come into it at all. I dont know how typical or widespread outside of Afghanistan that is, but interesting nonetheless.

Im only referring to the Western born jihadis. I agree its totally different motivation for the Iraqis, Syrians etc - which is why IS keep the westerners separate from the rest in their own battalion. The instinct to survive is interesting. In Britain in the middle ages people were taught to accept their miserable lot as peasants because they would reach heaven in the afterlife. The jihadis are taught pretty much the same - it doesnt matter if you die because the afterlife is so much better. Whereas for most of us preserving this life trumps everything else.

Im not sure. As Shirleyfc says most of them have got a history of drink, dope, petty crime and some jail time without ever holding down a job - classic misfit in society. People with that kind of history tend to look around for some alternative path. My ex retrains in a different career every three or four years, constantly looking for something because she can never get her life together (not that she ever did the other stuff). The fact they dabble with becoming religious doesnt mean they actually believe. Would they still join if the offer was living in a monastery and praying six times a day instead of going to Syria and playing with guns and explosives?

Thanks. It was quite well done, and I did at least read it. All the unaddressed flyers go straight in the bin without a glance.

Me too. Personally addressed in an envelope and paid for postage, no cheapo flyer through the door. Wonder who is funding them.

This, or worse - they enjoy it. For some getting paid to be top dog driving around raping, enslaving and killing people is a lot more fun than working a dull minimum wage job and living in a bedsit or going to prison again. The fact someone tells you its God's work takes care of whatever residual conscience they have.

You'd think God would make a bigger splash than that.

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My daughter left her solvent nail polish remover open topped stood on the radiator. Heady stuff. I might fight later, or fly, or dribble. Not sure yet.

Sure, not exactly cocktail party standard, but no-one has knocked anyone's pint over yet.