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All governments since WW2 have been keen on immigration - its an easy way to 1. get headline GDP growth (no-one looks at GDP per capita) 2. increase the working age population to support a growing retired population 3. ensure a supply of cheap labour to keep companies happy and onside. Its much easier than vote losing difficult policies like removing child related benefits, making people work longer before they retire and explaining why the economy is stagnating.

No. But I had it done as an extra when having a towbar fitted on a Qashqai and it cost me £30.

I see caring Dave has made his mum redundant. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/mary-cameron-very-sad-as-her-son-davids-cuts-start-to-take-their-toll-a6924506.html

They are in the process of doing just that. http://www.reuters.com/article/us-swiss-eu-immigration-croatia-idUSKCN0W60P7

I was going to, and then I saw this "Littlewood has spoken extensively against regulation of the tobacco industry on behalf of the Institute of Economic Affairs (IEA), who currently refuse to acknowledge whether they still receive funding from interested groups".

Sorry about your wife - but are you saying if she got ill on a different day when A&E was quiet, or the other patients happened to be Bitterne born and bred, then you'd vote to stay in?

The fact you rate Gove, IDS, Farage and Jacob Rees Mogg above academics, the military, business and the Bank of England demonstrates eloquently why the Brexit campaign will lose.

I guess that shows how good the EU has been for us. In 1975 France's GDP was 50% bigger than ours and Germany's more than double that of the UK. Now we're bigger than France and Germany is only about 20% ahead. We wouldn't want to mess that up eh? On a global scale though SOG is right - our share of global GDP is declining all the time.

I'd like to be undecided. I wish there was more of choice.

Not really, they aren't stupid. They know members fear of Turkey joining is a great way to extract concessions, like £6.5bn. Turkey is never going to join because 1. Any one of 28 countries can veto their membership 2. They dont have the necessary safeguards in place for human rights / press freedom / democracy 3. Erdogan wants to roll back secularism and democracy - he is moving away from the EU, not towards

Yep. Absolute

So we we should get out because its on the road to a dominating superstate and we should get out because its weak and is going to collapse? Fundamental differences about what sort of EU members want - bigger and deeper or shallower and lighter have been simmering for years. Until recently countries like Britain, Czech Republic, Hungary, Poland and Denmark have been in the minority but the rise of nationalism in France and anti refugee reaction in Germany and Austria has changed that balance of power dynamic. We arent on the road to a superstate anymore, there isnt the support for it. In my view the EU will change substantially for the better in the next few years, but could instead collapse in acrimony if Britain left. Neither leaving just as the EU reforms, nor being blamed by others for its collapse is going to put Britain in a better position. Britain has a good chance of creating the kind of EU most want to see just by staying put and leading the case for change.

An electric lawn rake / scarifier and Evergreen 4 in 1 worked a treat for mine.

True. The height of luxury in 1850, not so much now.

British trains are a bit too narrow anyway, the seats are too cramped. We'd be better off if our trains were wider as in most of Europe / US.

He tried to kiss her

She won £27m by cheating. Very fine line between being champion and also-ran

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It was - mainly because Fords seemed to have lied / misled the Government over their plans, and probably the EU too. The UK Government gave them a £10m grant for Southampton only two weeks before the closure was announced. "The MPs questioned the awarding of a £9.3m Government grant just days before the announcement was made and a £80m (€100m) loan from the European Investment Bank (EIB) signed off for Ford Otosan's sprawling Turkish Transit plant in July, which will take over Southampton’s work. Michael Fallon, a minister from the Department for Business, Innovation and Skills, said the department was told by Ford in September it would continue to produce the chassis cab variant of the Transit in Southampton in 2013, adding “we had no reason to question what they told us.” He said Ford only revealed their closure plans to the department the evening before the announcement was made to the world. Mr Fallon said he was “disappointed they chose not to engage with us until the day before the announcement.” He said the EIB loan was approved for the retooling of Ford’s Turkish plant to make the next generation of the Transit and was “not based on the cessation of production in Southampton.” http://www.southwalesargus.co.uk/news/10028714.Ford_closure__Donate_factory_site_to_city__demands_MP/

Excellent satire of the Brexit argument, top work!

Sauerkraut

I heard his Dad being interviewed on the morning after his announcement. He was trying really hard to be supportive of his son and not critical, but it was obvious he was baffled. He was talking about how Boris was brought up in Brussels when his dad was an MEP and that Boris had never been anti European. imo it was a cynical leadership bid for the Tory party - a really bad one which will backfire. A pity because I would have much rather seen him as leader than Osborne.

I think a lot of the people who want out are unhappy with globalisation - the way in which countries have lost much of their distinctiveness. Local quirks and traditions have been eroded and everywhere has become a bit more homogenous. The same few brands dominate from China to Burundi and voters are treated as consumers cultivated for the benefit of global corporations. Personally I'd like to see a lot more localism - but don't see leaving the EU as helping that. If we left Britain would be more subject to prevailing winds, not less imo.

Listening to your balls instead of your brain can prove expensive in my experience.

Good move imo. He's turned £20 into £29,000 an amazing windfall. He'd feel far worse if they dont win and he got nothing than if they win and he loses out on an extra £71,000.