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And here was me thinking it was the people going on and on and on and on about not going on and on and on and on that was keeping these threads alive....

Good spot. As long as Diggers stays shtum, the takeover is still on....

We'll obviously need photographs of earlobes before we can help ID these guys

Of course no one wants their team to be in a lower league given a black-and-white choice but given our respective circumstances and, thus, putting things into perspective, I'd rather be in League One and on the rise than in freefall in the Championship. We are simply putting off the inevitable. Lowe's masterplan of 'starting from scratch' with academy players would have worked wonders in League One but, evidently, isn't working out too well in the Championship..... And, before the clever-clogs come back with "So, you'd rather be in division 2 if we were doing poorly in Division 1?".....I say....No....with our current squad, our natural position is League One....not the Championship or League Two. IMHO of course

Source?

Yes. I always said we would need to find our natural level before we could bounce back. Division 1 is our natural level right now. I'm sure Lowe thought the same....look at the timing of his return....'twas at a time where we were looking dead certs for relegation....the Jan Poortvliet 'experiment' would have worked wonders in League One but due to our 'unexpected' last minute reprieve on the last day of the season Lowe found himself having to deploy a plan he had hatched for us being in League One rather than in the Championship. Which, of course, makes our current low table 'predicament' all the more understandable. So, yes, I'd be far happier riding at the top of League One right now than languishing at the foot of the Championship. One step backwards = many steps forward..... Fact. HTH

I assume that one is called a 'Jackson'?

Photoshop comes to the rescue again in order to make St Mary's look like it was full.

The 'trouble'is...we have both the away and most voiciferous home fans in the same stand.....how many other clubs have the away fans in the same stand as the rowdiest home fans??

IMO, the "ITKers" are worse than the tyre kickers to which they profess to know all about. The tyre kickers never say anything if their approach goes tits up, and the supposed ITKers that "promise" to tell why are even less honourable. One word: Plankton

Ripe for takeover

Anyone know who was on 3 points after 9 games last season....just so that we can work out which team JP meant to refer to in the OS article in question? Hull City perhaps?

Agree. I posted last season that it was "crazy" for our team to come out of the tunnel at the start of the game and run over to the Chapel Stand, leaving the opposition team to run over to the Northam stand to be greeted by loud(er) applause. (Ok, I know that the Saints fans in the Northam aren't cheering for the opposition but the general 'wall of sound' from that end must inspire the opposition regards of who it's aimed at).... When I raised this I got the wonderful explanation that our dressing room was nearer the chapel end and it was somehow far too 'complicated' for the players to swap over positions before coming out of the tunnel - I know footballers aren't going to trouble mensa in their droves but come on...."Complicated"....?! Give me strength. And I guess it's this running out to the Chapel end that more often than not results in us playing to the Chaepl end in the second half (because most teams can't be ar5ed to swap ends when they win the toss) One word: Epiglotis

This is my favourite JP quote from the OS: "West Brom last year had just three points after 9 games and were eventually crowned champions" One word: 'Perspective'

Absolutely. That's just the point....there's no accountability for them to explain what went wrong....either morally or legally. Poor.

Fridays are better than Sundays....

Plan? What plan? Where is there a shred of evidence there was ever a "plan"? Even LifeLong had a plan....OK...it was titled "The Future of Saints: Cloud Cuckoo Land" but AT LEAST he had a plan. Where is Fulthorpe's plan? That's all I ask.

Alas, Fulthorpe will say nothing. The 'game' these people play is a 'no lose' situation for speculators like them..... If they get a deal together they will shout "look how wonderful we are" from the rooftops, whereas if their approach proves to be unsuccessful they will shrink off into the background without any obligation, moral or otherwise, to explain to supporters what was wrong with their business plan. Simple. As. That.

Conspiracy Theories R Us observation alert.... Quite a long denial for something that's not true.... What is it that psychologists say about people that answer a question with much more information than the original question warrants.....?

SaintsWeb poster in jump to conclusion shocker

Humble opinion alert.... Friday night before a game on the Saturday seems like a strange time for routine/planned maintenance.....

I pretty much agree. Winning is everything at the end of the day (Brian).

Underhand? Subterfuge? It's what he would have wanted...

Nail. Head. I raised this at the time that the corner closure was announced. As you say, it leaves less seats for a 'parent and child' combination at reduced prices. Ok, yes, the family corner is still there but the club are missing the point if that's the only explanation for reducing the overall number of cheaper seats. Madness. Edit: I've just tried to think of a reason why kids rates don't apply to ANYWHERE in the ground and can't think of one. I can see why you might want such restrictions when demand outstrips supply but in today's poor attendance climate it's a completely arbitrary restriction.

Supply and demand