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Chomp chomp chomp Textbook Tick etc

I agree with May; there won't be a re-run of the first referendum (aka "second referendum"). However, I fully expect there to be a first referendum on the outcome of the 'negotiations'. Semantics? Maybe. But semantics is the tool of choice for politicians when it comes to avoiding "lying".

I wonder if that's because Hughes doesn't rate them (Hesketh in particular, as he's been in and around the first team squad for a couple of seasons now) or because the U23s were short of options and got first dibs on them?

Putting the referendum to one side for a mo, at a conceptual/philosophical level, what's wrong with arriving at a different point of view when circumstances change and/or new information comes to light in a given scenario? For example, I used to quite like Rolf Harris. I don't any more though.

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a) ITK? b) Hunch? c) Wishful thinking? d) Random uncontextual post on a football forum? Cheers

No, sir. You're mistaking me for someone who researches their subject matter before posting drivel on here.

Looks like Man City's heading for a rubbish season too

Fair point. Just observing that Derby had much more energy and desire about them. Why were they taking it more seriously than us? Perhaps they are simply further forward in their pre season time table than us.

Maybe the players were under instruction to treat this game as a training exercise rather than take it seriously as a match? That's the only explanation I can give for such a lacksidaisical performance

Romeu strolling around for their 3rd as if he couldn't be arsed

Dear oh dear. 3-0. More woeful defending. Mcarthy unluckly - saved the first shot well

Gallagher and McQueen on for Lemina and Bertrand

2-0... More crap defending. Just let the Derby forward waltz through on goal

Bertrand goes close. Good save

Harrison Reed seems to be playing up front at the moment...

On the plus side, the new away kit looks quite nice

Vestergaard... Oops...

Tadic on one of his off days

Half time. Derby look much more 'match fit' than us. Redmond probably our best player.

Can't read anything into pre-season games

Woeful Saints defending... Derby through on goal... One on one with the keeper... Great stop McCarthy

Derby website. (I was sad enough to pay a fiver )

Saints in new yellow away kit