Matthew Le God

Would you have said that if you were born in Norway to Viking parents in 934 AD? No you wouldn't! You'd believe in Viking Gods. Why is Thor the Viking God of Thunder less valid than the Judeo-Christian God? There is just as much evidence for both. Why dismiss one God but not another? The Gods people worship are largely due to the time and country they are born into and the Gods their parents introduce them to. The religion of most people is an accident of birth and parentage, location and time period and not whether that religion has any credence other all the thousands of other religions throughout human history.

Which God? There are 10,000 of them throughout human history.

Miss the huge sticky thread at the top of the page? http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=17806

How is it a paradox? Not every human mind is a religious one. I am free from religious beliefs and if I were an architect I would be free to design buildings for public spaces or as an artist paint a picture or movie director make a film without the need to make sure it didn't offend or go against any religious scripture. A world with no religion equals creative freedom without restriction.

Hardly the most independent of sources for that article.

Googling "suicide girls" is going to bring up alot more than just that though

What don't you know? I asked 2 questions. I said 10,000 and I rounded it, academic research has created a list of approximately 10k Gods in recorded human history. That list will or course be much larger due to some societies being lost in time and others not recording Gods they worshipped. It is not a point of dispute though as there is good evidence showing these 10k Gods.

Human history has had 10,000 different Gods worshipped. Think of all the damage interaction between groups creating codes out of worship of them has caused. If the whole world had no concept of religion anymore why would that create anarchy? I have no religion yet I am still able to be a moral person creating morals for myself that would be acceptable way to life you life for most Christians. Are you telling me that before God gave the Jews the 10 commandments that the Jews didn't already know that murder or theft was wrong?

Care to elaborate why? Religion creates rules for itself which restrict what you can and can't do with art or architecture. With no religion the creative spirit of the human mind can run free and express itself with freedom. By no way does this mean every secular art work or building is more beautiful than a religious one but it does allow for the possibility of unrestricted creativity. But then of course beauty is in the eye of the beholder

Example of a "proper indie girl"?

It loses my respect as the only way they were constructed was through employing a lack of human rights and use of slavery. The beauty of something is not just how it looks aesthetically but should also include the ethics from which it was derived. Beautiful architecture and art doesn't need religion as an inspirational, it would still occur in a world free from religion. Religion just happened to have a large influence at the times of construction of these buildings and art with its influence/power/money and employed slavery in which to complete them. A world free from religion would create better and more beautiful art as it wouldn't be based on superstition and bronze age myths and instead would free the human creative mind without religious connotations or restrictions on creativity due to religious beliefs.

So the monuments of slavery and oppression are fine in your eyes? If the Mona Lisa was made using paint mixed with the blood of a slave would that make it ok or would the painting lose any of your respect?

You can't turn it off once a save game has started. The whole point of it wasn't for things like European names (Forename/Surname) It was for example those in Brazil where name structure is different and this option corrects it in the game.

I didn't give any examples because I thought surely everyone already knew this! Aztecs, Romans, Egyptians etc etc(list could go on a long time) all had religious buildings built by slaves All medieval European religious buildings were largely built by down trodden repressed peasants A large number of Christian Churches were built using slaves until the emancipation in the 19th Century Any beauty derived from a large number of historic religious buildings imo is wiped out by the pain, deaths caused and lack of human rights used in their construction.

I disagree completely. A large number of religious buildings throughout human history although perhaps ascetically beautiful - were built by slaves or down trodden peasants. This fact wipes out any positives due to the pain and lack of human rights used by those commissioning them to build them with people against their will.

My religion videos Do you believe? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-ai0sCkZdg Geography of God http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S01pSB857Lc&feature=related Prayers - The Story of a Milk God http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlHxpxSByYI&feature=fvw Flying Spaghetti Monster http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2eHOxHi0LY

By having a large list it emphases the magnitude of the errors found within the scripture which are meant to be the word of God and void of error. Christians pick and choose which bits to follow and which to ignore. With the Bible saying both opposing sides of an argument are acceptable in different places within the scripture it near enough says anything can be justified using it as a moral code.

How else was I meant to provide evidence of the Bible contradicting itself? Easier to just get it from another source rather than typing it out myself.

It is Hungarian. All the adverts for the companies at half time have .hu in their websites

It is in Hungarian Not Iraqi, Chinese etc etc

All that does if true is prove that your God is evil if he exists. If you are correct and he listened to your prayers and healed this man then why did he sit with arms folded whilst Miss Frizel of Austria was imprisoned in a cellar for 24 years and raped by her father? Was he enjoying watching whilst it happened and decided not to act? The Christian God if he exists is evil if he has the power to act in some cases and decides not to for others. Surely it is a worse case for Miss Fritzl than being blind. I'd rather be blind then go through what she went through. Only an evil God would be indifferent to her but not the blind man. Why has an amputee never grown back a limb? The only medical miracles that happen are ones that could have happened by statistical coincidence anyway. Never something that defies the laws of biology like growing back a limb.

Name a moral act that you can do as a Christian that I cannot do as an atheist?

Even more bizarre about Noah's ark is how he managed to goto Australia for example which wasn't known to him in order to pick up all the unique life there.

Exactly Anyone that takes their morality from something that contradicts itself thousands of times has to look again at what they are doing. Imagine if this was a self help book, if I submitted it to my publisher they would never publish it due to the contradictions within. It takes a very blind person to try and justify these 143 errors - just a small % of what I could have listed. It just shows that God is incompetent and evil as this book is meant to be the direct word of God.

116. Children are punished for the sins of the parents Ex 20:5 Children are not punished for the sins of the parents Ezek 18:20 117. Man is justified by faith alone Rom 3:20/ Gal 2:16/ Gal 3:11,12/ Rom 4:2 Man is not justified by faith alone James 2:21,24/ Rom 2:13 118. It is impossible to fall from grace John 10:28/ Rom 8:38,39 It is possible to fall from grace Ezek 18:24/ Heb 6:4-6, 2 Pet 2:20,21 119. No man is without sin 1 Kings 8:46/ Prov 20:9/ Eccl 7:20/ Rom 3:10 Christians are sinless 1 John 3: 9,6,8 120. There is to be a resurrection of the dead 1 Cor 15:52/ Rev 20:12,13/ Luke 20:37/ 1 Cor 15:16 There is to be no resurrection of the dead Job 7:9/ Eccl 9:5/ Is 26:14 121. Reward and punishment to be bestowed in this world Prov 11:31 Reward and punishment to be bestowed in the next world Rev 20:12/ Matt 16:27/ 2 Cor 5:10 122. Annihilation the portion of all mankind Job 3: 11,13-17,19-22/ Eccl 9:5,10/ Eccl 3:19,20 Endless misery the portion of all mankind Matt 25:46/ Rev 20:10,15/ Rev 14:11/ Dan 12:2 123. The Earth is to be destroyed 2 Pet 3:10/ Heb 1:11/ Rev 20:11 The Earth is never to be destroyed Ps 104:5/ Eccl 1:4 124. No evil shall happen to the godly Prov 12:21/ 1 Pet 3:13 Evil does happen to the godly Heb 12:6/ Job 2:3,7 125. Worldly good and prosperity are the lot of the godly Prov 12:21/ Ps 37:28,32,33,37/ Ps 1:1,3/ Gen 39:2/ Job 42:12 Worldly misery and destitution the lot of the godly Heb 11:37,38/ Rev 7:14/ 2 Tim 3:12/ Luke 21:17 126. Worldly prosperity a reward of righteousness and a blessing Mark 10:29,30/ Ps 37:25/ Ps 112:1,3/ Job 22:23,24/ Prov 15:6 Worldly prosperity a curse and a bar to future reward Luke 6:20,24/ Matt 6:19,21/ Luke 16:22/ Matt 19:24/ Luke 6:24 127. The Christian yoke is easy Matt 11:28,29,30 The Christian yoke is not easy John 16:33/ 2 Tim 3:12/ Heb 12:6,8 128. The fruit of God's spirit is love and gentleness Gal 5:22 The fruit of God's spirit is vengeance and fury Judg 15:14/ 1 Sam 18:10,11 129. Longevity enjoyed by the wicked Job 21:7,8/ Ps 17:14/ Eccl 8:12/ Is 65:20 Longevity denied to the wicked Eccl 8:13/ Ps 55:23/ Prov 10:27/ Job 36:14/ Eccl 7:17 130. Poverty a blessing Luke 6:20,24/ Jams 2:5 Riches a blessing Prov 10:15/ Job 22:23,24/ Job 42:12 Neither poverty nor riches a blessing Prov 30:8,9 131. Wisdom a source of enjoyment Prov 3:13,17 Wisdom a source of vexation, grief and sorrow Eccl 1:17,18 132. A good name is a blessing Eccl 7:1/ Prov 22:1 A good name is a curse Luke 6:26 133. Laughter commended Eccl 3:1,4/ Eccl 8:15 Laughter condemned Luke 6:25/ Eccl 7:3,4 134. The rod of correction a remedy for foolishness Prov 22:15 There is no remedy for foolishness Prov 27:22 135. A fool should be answered according to his folly Prov 26:5 A fool should not be answered according to his folly Prov 26:4 136. Temptation to be desired James 1:2 Temptation not to be desired Matt 6:13 137. Prophecy is sure 2 Pet 1:19 Prophecy is not sure Jer 18:7-10 138. Man's life was to be one hundred and twenty years Gen 6:3/ Ps 90:10 Man's life is but seventy years Ps 90:10 139. The fear of man was to be upon every beast Gen 9:2 The fear of man is not upon the lion Prov 30:30 140. Miracles a proof of divine mission Matt 11:2-5/ John 3:2/ Ex 14:31 Miracles not a proof of divine mission Ex 7:10-12/ Deut 13:1-3/ Luke 11:19 141. Moses was a very meek man Num 12:3 Moses was a very cruel man Num 31:15,17 142. Elijah went up to heaven 2 Kings 2:11 None but Christ ever ascended into heaven John 3:13 143. All scripture is inspired 2 Tim 3:16 Some scripture is not inspired 1 Cor 7:6/ 1 Cor 7:12/ 2 Cor 11:17