Matthew Le God

Chris Perry has been a captain

No I didn't. I agree with you that Jones is low down on the list compared to the others and its easy to question the ones low down on it. I used him because he was a popular manager in Saints recent history and is in the database still.

Because since 1991 Jones and Strachan are the most popular managers of the club out of the 16 managers we have had in that time.

What does that have to do with him being a fan favourite? You are looking at it from the wrong way round. If we want to go into who is being pedantic, you are the one that brought up that one of the 30 people I choose to be fans favourites shouldn't be one.

Not really because you said "legend". There is a big difference between "legend", "icon" and "favourite personnel" on the game so your point really not valid at all

Yep, otherwise we'd have Ted Bates commenting on player signings from beyond the grave.

Legends: Matthew Le Tissier, Lawrie McMenemy, Ted Bates, Mick Channon Icons: Peter Shilton, Mark Wright, Nick Holmes, Gordon Strachan, Kevin Keegan, Jimmy Case, Ron Davies, Bobby Stokes, Terry Paine, Martin Chivers, Alan Ball Favoured Personnel: Francis Benali, Jason Dodd, Dave Jones, Wayne Bridge, Gareth Bale, Chris Nicholl, Tim Flowers, James Beattie, Chris Marsden, Chris Baird, Matthew Oakley, Rod Wallace, Mick Mills, Mark Dennis, Glenn C.ockerill, Kevin Moore, Andrew Surman, Michael Svensson, Antti Niemi, Theo Walcott, Alan Shearer, Marian Pahars, Claus Lundekvam, David Armstrong, Steve Williams

Yes, but then he is not listed as a legend.

Anyone with data issues for Southampton can post here. http://community.sigames.com/showthread.php?t=153551

The strawberry demo only has about 8 nations with playable leagues compared to over 50 on the full game. The demo game is a "quickstart" game which is basically a savegame on a small database. As it is a "savegame" it means things like computer manager shortlists and PA's for players are the same each time you start a demo game. On the full game this will not be the case and you can have a far bigger player database.

Vanilla is a very simple version of the demo. It does not have many leagues, no club badges, player photos etc etc. Strawberry is the glossy and nice version with all included.

Get Saints player for £40 and you get extended highlights normally between 6 and 12 minutes, interviews during the week and the occasional full 90 mins game (Torquay game and Under 18's vs Man Utd). £40 on Saints player is much cheaper than the license fee so stop complaining

Since Chris Nicholl left in 1991 we have had 16 managers. I'm sure you can agree Jones is one of the most popular of those 16.

Not confusing Davis James Trotman Jaidi Harding Wotton Hammond Schneiderlin Papa Waigo Lallana Lambert

Well then its your tactics not "our Rickie" Maybe he is creating the space for Zaki to score!

Lambert is one of the best strikers in League One on the game Dean

No it isn't the first time it has happened, anyway this season it will be three times before December not two. Millwall Charlton Brighton

£5m with £1.5m transfer budget, £10k wages left and Markus Liebherr is a "sugar daddy"

I'd start again if I were you with a much larger database selected. The demo is just a "quickstart" database and hardly has any players. Also a release day patch/data update will be available and for best results it is better to start a new game after installing the patch.

Kayne is about 5 foot 10 iirc

Have you ever seen him play? With your description of him it doesn't seem like you have.

Strawberry demos - PC DEMO = http://www.fileplay.net/file/6432/fo...0-gold-demo-pc MAC DEMO = http://www.fileplay.net/file/6433/football-manager-2010-gold-demo-mac

It is available for under £18. Considering the number of hours most play FM for it works out as value for money imo

Strawberry Demo for the PC Includes pictures, kits, logos etc http://www.bigdownload.com/games/football-manager-2010/pc/football-manager-2010-strawberry-demo/

Have you checked to see if your graphics card drivers can be updated? Also are you running anything in the background whilst playing the game?