Matthew Le God

It isn't cheating to create a set piece. The most important thing this shows is not that it is possible to do set pieces like this, but that the players have NO AI what-so-ever. This lack of AI will be shown in other areas of the game. That is so worrying it should stop anyone from wanting to play the game until it is fixed as it is a game breaker. The problem with this is that Eidos/BGS have said they are unlikely to produce patches beyond one on 11th September.

You are missing the point. The computer didn't make the set piece it was the user. The computer in each of those goals is the defending team.

It shows that the players have very poor AI when it comes to marking. It is him using the set piece creator to show a massive flaw in the game. He instructed his attackers to run or stand on the side of the pitch. The defenders blindly mark them without considering the huge space in the of free space in the centre of the pitch. The match engine is fundamentally flawed. Players just run around like headless chickens.

The database is something they aren't going to get right. The CM database is made by a small number of people(10 people in their office) that don't watch or support the majority of the clubs they research. They also have a small number of external researchers and sources of data. FM database is made by over 1,500 researchers all around the world that are mostly season ticket holders.

The video link I showed shows the whole match engine has no player AI. That is quite a large problem. The database is massively incorrect. That is an enormous problem.

That'll teach you to be pedantic Ron

It is a beta demo released 3 weeks before the game goes on sale. If they can't sort it out in 2 years of development time they have no chance in under 3 weeks. Remember it takes time for a game to go into manufacture/distribution to shops and that process will happen along time before 11th September.

The animations may look pretty but the underlying engine is a mess - Exhibit A Look at the database and it is far from accurate - Exhibit B the Southampton data

You can't appeal a ruling if there was never a ruling in the first place.

Can Brighton not afford a kit in his size?

Probably about 2 weeks before the game is released on 30th October.

Andrew Davies Must have been mentioned in this thread somewhere. But our player of the season from two years ago isn't getting a game at Stoke so maybe worth a try.

It is a Beta version that is released 3 weeks before the game so pretty much exactly how it will be on the day of release. Development and QA in games development takes alot of time. As does manufacture and distribution of the game to the shops. So Eidos have little or no time to make changes before the release. I'm not on any commission. If I thought CM was the best game I would be a researcher and tester for them. However I don't

Have you played the demo yet?

How can you say that when you haven't seen FM2010?

Data updates are not patches. Data updates = Update the database player transfers etc and there will be 6 of these throughout the year Patches = fix bugs BGS/Eidos have said that after Sept 11th it is unlikely they will make any patches.

Why? He meets the rules. Jaidi doesn't and is at the end of his career.

If you actually read it you will see these are 6 data updates NOT patches that fix bugs. Also you have to pay for these data updates.

It never had anything as bad as this. Shows the whole match engine is a mess and player AI is non existent. CM may well not be releasing patches beyond 11th September.

FM09 did have bugs I have never denied that at least they produce free patches. However Eidos/BGS have hinted they won't be producing patches. As I have said before there should be alot fewer bugs in FM10 due to changes in the QA systems now in place. Looking at the CM demo there are game breaking bugs so even for £2.51 it is a poor buy.

You could have played the CM demo to do that for free today. By buying it you won't find out until 11th Sept.

Play the CM demo I linked to and judge for yourself. These are fundamental flaws to the game in CM not just small easily fixable bugs.

Hope that helps

That is because between 1992 to 2004 CM was made by SI THEN From 2004 onwards CM was made by BGS studios. From 2004 onwards SI used the game code from previous CM games and all its previous experience to make Football Manager.

Just because it is cheap doesn't make it value for money. Play the demo that I linked to and decide yourself.