Matthew Le God

It is claimed to be 'intelligent design', an intelligent designer wouldn't wire things back to front in his chosen species. I also am short sighted, so my eyes and that of millions of others are not remotely well designed. If a God did design human eyes he is incompetent and you are scrambling around trying to make excuses.

Humans are animals!

Where in the list of laws and commandments does it say things are up for interpretation? They are supposed to be commandements of law by God, that is about as black and white as you can get!

The wiring is the wrong way round, the light has to pass through the wiring and so is not efficient. It is possible to have better eyes, eagles and hawks for example have far better eyesight than humans. Yes there is a wealth of evidence. Read a biology book!

1) So do you agree that the commandment you mention directly contradicts another part of the book where it says in Exodus that if you curse at your mother or father you should be killed? YES/NO 2) Do you think there are no times you can kill and it be acceptable? Were those on London Bridge in the wrong to kill the terrorist. Because if we abide by God's black and white rule of 'do not kill' then the police were wrong to shoot him even though he was a threat to others. YES/NO

It didn't. Why is that a relevant question?

Exodus 21 “Whoever curses his father or his mother shall be put to death." https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Exodus+21%3A17&version=ESV I'd love to see how you spin that to mean something else. What possible context makes that an acceptable moral code!!!?

1) How am I getting above myself with those answers? 2) You didn't answer my two questions Why is a God required to critique something? The God of the Bible made a commandment that disobedient children should be killed. Do you think that I am able to critique that as being an abhorrent moral code to live by? 3) 'Context to know if the eye is flawed' - what context? I said the human eye if designed is poor because the 'wiring' is blocking some of the the light entering, an intelligent designer would wire it the other way round and it would be more effiecent and give us better sight. The reason why it is as it is, is due to the evolution of the eye from a flat layer of light sensitive cells which other time developed into a curve and finally a ball in our ancestors.

That was one example I could pick from thousands of poor design from what is claimed to be an 'intelligent creator'. Why is a God required to critique something? The God of the Bible made a commandment that disobedient children should be killed. Do you think that I am able to critique that as being an abhorrent moral code to live by?

It is the worst of the Christian options, so if the myths were true I'd want to avoid it. But I also wouldn't like being in heaven and worshipping the deity described in the Bible as he is a horrific character, but at least it beats being tortured for eternity. Luckily there is no good evidence for any of it. That's it, the end... worm food

You've not responded to the terribly designed human eye.

Why should I have to look for it to avoid hell? Millions of people throughout human history have not been exposed to the Christian myths. It didn't reach Australia for example until the 1780s.

Explain how we have free will, if he created everything and knows the future! Free will is impossible in those conditions and God controls all elements to the system and knows the outcome of every decision when he sets the parameters for the creation.

I am not a hypocrite. I don't pray, I don't worship Jesus or the Christian or any other God. I will believe in any God if the evidence is sufficient. An all knowing God should know what evidence is sufficient but chooses not to reveal it.

I do eat chocolate at Easter. Does not mean I am religious, I just like chocolate. The Bible does not even mention chocolate, so clearly chocolate eggs aren't religious!

So your God is not loving? You argument is circular! You are effectively saying the evidence for the Bible being true is the Bible! Outside of the Bible what evidence is there that the crucifixion and resurrection story is true? I asked you if God knows what it would take for me to believe, you said he knows. He would also know that an old book is not sufficient evidence for me to believe. It is therefore cruel to punish someone for eternity in hell for not believing and withholding the evidence he knows would make me believe in him!

For this? The human eye is terribly designed if by a God and not evolution.

First I'd like answers to my earlier questions...

1) Is God all knowing? YES/NO 2) Is he kind and loving? YES/NO 3) Does God know what evidence it would take for me to believe in him? YES/NO 4) Is it kind and loving to punish someone for eternity in hell if you know what it would take to stop it happening but refuse to do so by providing sufficient evidence? YES/NO

Is he incompetent? Lots of design flaws for an 'intelligent designer'!

What is that based on?

How?

I think... therefore I am

Maybe he delegates designing things to Magratheans like Slartibartfast[h=1][/h]

Oh Danso on loan Easily forgettable we got him!