Matthew Le God

No, I'm saying it is a strange logic Give it to Ron is using. I have no idea what Osvaldo has or hasn't done. But turning down a wage offer, does not mean a player by default wouldn't be interested in a move, merely he isn't happy with that particular offer. It is a negotiation process.

Have you considered Saints might have more money than Swansea?

You've taken a leap there, turning down a wage offer doesn't mean he wouldn't want to come here.

I agree, if that was the plan for Saturday I'd imagine they would have tried it against Real Sociedad at the very least.

Clyne was in training last week...

Its not even 3 days to learn the new system for a number of them, as they are away on international duty until Thursday/Friday and Saints will travel to West Brom on Friday.

You want the players to learn to play a system they've not used before in the next 3 days? That is quite a risk! I doubt Puncheon and Rodriguez would be effective wing backs anyway.

So the source is the Daily Star.

That is extremely vague! Who on twitter?

It would be impressive, but signing the England captain/reigning European player of the year is still bigger.

Shaw and the Real Sociedad player are very good actors then.

i know, I was adding to what you were saying to Le Goddard.

As he hasn't managed it by the age of 27, I wouldn't get your hopes up. He is a good Championship level left back and is out of his depth in the Premier League.

Clyne is too old to play for England Under 21's anymore. Players born on or after 1st January 1992 are eligible until the end of the 2015 UEFA European Under-21 Football Championship. Clyne was born 5th April 1991.

It was a 3 match ban and he and Ramirez missed the Tottenham, Sunderland and Stoke games at the end of last season.

He was in training on 8th August, as this video shows...

Our first choice defence is probably Shaw, Lovren, Yoshida, Clyne. That wasn't the defence at any point today.

Not particularly. He missed some games with a virus, rather than injury. Again not a sign of injury proneness.

Being injured in a clumsy tackle, does not mean you are injury prone. It could happen to anyone.

So a players clatters into him and that makes him "injury prone"?

Simply means Saints are continuing to use their 4-2-3-1 formation from last season.

And Shaw, as Hodgson is managing the under 21's on Tuesday.

Because Lallana is a better player, despite what a number of people on this forum say.

He is currently in training, just not ready for a game.

Yes, Pochettino signed Osvaldo on loan in January 2010 and then permanently in August 2010.