sandwichsaint

Just back from four days in Mallorca, a real 'must do' for all us Tour wannabe's. 60km constant up and down on Monday, full sun and a really hot day. Family day in Palma on Tuesday. Wednesday 85km, on the flat then up the mountains to 700m and a long downhill too. Warm and dry but monstrous headwinds for the last 30km. Thursday, took the bikes in the van to the top of Sa Colabra (Google it), unfortunately the olds bottled it but my nipper smashed it in one hit in 45 minutes, then we all rode 60km together back to base. Mallorca really is a top cycling destination if you get a chance. We have entered the Kentish Killer again (the short route, that was tough enough last year and apparently it has been up-toughened for this season). Anybody that wants some early season Saints-chat biking we would love to see you down here in February, we are a group of 6 very social cakes-and-beer cyclists. 3 Saints fans, not looking to break any records, just looking to get round! http://kentishkiller.ning.com/

You have pm!

Even though all tickets always have a small-print, catch-all condition which says something like: 'fixture subject to change ..... non-refundable' etc ?

Oct 26: Fulham (h) 1-0 W Nov 2: Stoke City (a) 1-1 D Nov 9: Hull City (h) 2-0 W Nov 23: Arsenal (a) 1-2 L Nov 30: Chelsea (a) 0-2 L Dec 3: Aston Villa (h) 2-1 W Dec 7: Manchester City (h) 2-1 W Dec 14: Newcastle United (a) 1-1 D 14 Points P8 W4 D2 L2 F10 A9 Goals per game F 1.25, Goals per game A 1.12, Points per game 1.75, Not impossible and would keep us right up there. Would think players and management would be aiming higher than this? When did we last have back-to-back defeats?

like a championship game (but with two worldies thrown in, first fulham goal sensational)

My bad, makes sense now. How many teams have a better avg all-time finish than us? I'll go for 28.

7 teams above Arsenal? Lpool? Everton ? ManU ,,,, unlikely Who else?

Nutshell.

I skim read this last night - v interesting/chilling. All allegedly of course and nothing there in itself which says she might have not been abducted, but.... Everyone has to make up their own mind, they never rang true with me from day one and I've not seen anything since to make me change my mind. Meaningless media stat of the week for what it's worth and a I have no way of verifying if it is true or not, apparently there are 30 plod working on the Saville case and 37 working on this, go figure.

Not sure, but by all reports their pies are a lot better than ours.

They've missed off Alan Hansen, surely shome mishtake? I would have liked to have seen Sir Dave Brailsford on there for some badly needed out-of-the-box type thinking.

How about I bung you 40 quid and take care of the copulation? You won't need to buy her flowers (guaranteed) and you and the nipper have 80 quid for a boys night out in Sunderland. Win / win and she will probably get you a little something for when you get home.

How low's low? Two PL teams Home draw, 2 rounds away from a semi-final Reasonably attractive oppo (us!) Half term, adults 15, kids 5, footy hotbed Winnable game (s******) for their new manager Reckon they will get 20k easily. Would make sense for them to house our massive downstairs and mothball the upstairs for the evening.

I didn't renew and have only seen Liverpool and Swansea! Sympathies to you.

He would have known it was the wrong decision when the defender and JW-P both turned to move back up field for a goal kick (assuming he saw that and hadn't turned his back to run to the corner of the box ready for the corner).

Take it you've never been to Margate, Dover, Folkestone, Hastings? Parts of Margate and Folkestone have some of the most deprived post codes in the UK and Dover is just grim, grim, grim. Genuine contenders for the top 10 never mind the top 50. Sandwich, Deal and Canterbury are all very nice though, cheek by jowl and all that.

Thank goodness they didn't score from that quick break, good thinking by them but it would have left Mr Dean with some higher-level levelling-up to consider. I was surprised he allowed the quick free kick with half the Saints players heading for the corner flag!

Dean's 'original' mistake was in giving the corner a fraction too quickly. He couldn't have definitively seen if it was a corner or not (due to the position of the two players and the unusual bounce of the ball), neither lino could help him; sometimes (very rarely) you have to give it on your gut instinct. If he had waited for a split second longer he would have seen the Swansea player turn away upfield for a goal kick, similarly JW-P turned and started to head back into a defensive position. He would have known at that time that he had almost certainly got it wrong by the reaction of the two players, he is then in the difficult position of how to reverse a decision he has made in good faith. Given that he was then instantly surrounded by angry Swansea players it is hard to reverse the decision without appearing to back down to mob rule. Standing by an incorrect decision and then 'levelling up' is probably the way to go - interesting point above that Saints players didn't complain though there was clearly no foul.

Be honest! I still think he did the right thing (easy to say when you win 2-0!) I would be pretty miffed if we lost a game like this, so you'd have to say you wouldn't want to win like that either. At the end of the day, we don't actually have any influence on these decisions, only opinions. Guess you have to just take the rough with the smooth and hope it evens out. I'm not a big Mike Dean fan but i thought he was decent yesterday

LOL! Phoned my nipper walking out after the game and he was ranting having watched it on the stream - he said what di4k does that? I said I did it on Saturday, hockey umpiring I gave a short corner decision, in good faith, which with hindsight was 99% wrong, the game had moved on from a position where I could easily reverse the decision; as soon as the ball was with the attacking team I gave a phantom decision to the defence, job done. Not ideal but 100 times better than compounding your original mistake with a goal. I thought he did the right thing, I would be pretty ****ed if we were to concede a winning goal later in the season in those sort of circumstances.

I had a pie yesterday, it was excellent. (I was out from 8-30 am to 7-00 pm and it was all I had all day so I'm allowed to eat at the football).

We went to the Brecon Beacons for our team building, goin back 25 years here. Two teams parked their mini buses in two different locations and had to converge at the top of the mountain (then work together) to solve the challenge. Two teams trudged up the mountain for 2 hours and then we met up - I was sort of leading our team (by default),their leader 'We've looked at the maps ('OK'), and we've got a plan ('OK'), we think you need to go back down and move your minibus to 670 301 and then come back up'. Me 'F++k off', it all kicks off at the top of the mountain (two teams of grown men fighting over a buried Mars bar). ..... we laughed about it in the bar later but I can't recommend the Brecon Beacons if you want harmony and a quiet awayday.

Clyne and Chambers at FB? Not ideal, maybe 4-3-3 if we are deprived of our flying wing backs? .............Arthur ............ Chambers Usual Usual Patsy ......MS ......VW ......... JC ....... ......JR ..... DO ........ AL .......... Keep it tight, don't give Swansea room to play between us, control the midfield, those front three have a goal in them, keep Swansea honest, 1-0 It won't be pretty but whoever said finishing top 6 would be pretty? COYRs!

Want one, not so keen on the navy blue knickers though.

I quite like it but it's all a bit random, which is of course part of the attraction. Maybe this Jedanak guy represents a particular country? I don't really know anything about him. Maybe a design with club names / ground names / nicknames and reaching down into the non-league would have been better? Maybe I've got too much time on my hands?