revolution saint

Before my time but presume you could count McMenemy?

Cool, the opening salvos of the annual summer, experience vs potential debate. Personally think both sides have some merit but there’s some well shit experienced players out there as well as players with potential that will become, well, shit. Ultimately I think it comes down to the scouting and getting in the best affordable players regardless of age. There doesn’t appear to be much of a window of opportunity for young players with potential; if Downes has a breakout season next time round then he’s out of our price range in the same way we missed the boat on players like Gakpo, Hojlund and Ramos. Risk is he’s not the next in that line but the next Mara.

I had an irrational dislike for Craig Maskell when he came back. Not really sure why and if there was a reason then I’ve forgotten it but really didn’t like him. Sorry Craig.

Interesting speculation and, much like you, I think he'll probably leave us as his ambition outstrips what the club can reasonably expect to achieve. I think, pure speculation on my part and not ITK in any way, that he'll get us promoted as champions but will leave to star as Beaker in "Muppets: The musical".

Alan Nixon reckons us and Birmingham are in for Lewis O'Brien from Forest. 26 year old tough tacking midfielder apparently. Don't know anything about him but would seem strange given we've got Downes and Charles. YouTube from 4 years ago:

You do realise it’s a subjective opinion, right? I don’t think the latest link looks as good as the ones first leaked but even so, I don’t mind it. Definitely not hideous anyway.

Shirters? Have you just made that up?

Could be loans although I think Carvalho will probably be kept on unless there's no chance of playing a squad role. Can't see him wanting to drop a division. I reckon the West Ham fella Luis Guilherme is another that could be a realistic loan and possibly a deal similar to the Harwood-Bellis one.

Yep and first few games I thought he looked half decent. He's had a few more but not enough.

Take the money and run. He's had his chances under numerous managers and hasn't delivered. There'll always be an element of "what if?" with Sulemana because he has got talent but time to move on and let him show unfulfilled potential for someone else now.

I'm calling Wrexham at home on the Friday night.

Yeah, attacking midfielder could potentially cover a lot of bases. Personally I think of a more central player but could be a winger. Assuming Dibling and Sulemana leave then we don't have too many proper winger options. Edozie is one but after that it's Armstrong, BBD, Aribo, Fraser and out of that last 4 I don't really consider any of them as old school wingers (plus we're probably open to offers on all of them). Haven't heard of those you listed but we seem to like the south american market.

Looks like one of those "ugly" christmas jumpers in football shirt form.

We were linked a few days ago but other than that it's my speculation. Link: https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/southampton-plotting-transfer-swoop-for-koln-striker-damion-downs/ There's other links - that's just the first one I found. He's coming into his last year of contract, young, decent record in German 2nd division so Spors team will know about him in the same way they did Quarshie. Chuck in Spors talking about physicality and athleticism then Downs seems to fit the bill.

Yeah, that would be my concern too. Selles doesn't strike me as a particularly daring or adventurous coach and is more attuned to the defensive, hard to beat side of the game. They'll still have one of the better squads in the division but can easily see them picking up too many draws for a shot at automatic promotion.

Given that Quarshie was only 3M then I reckon the other two won't be too expensive and probably more along the same lines (young and with potential that we've identified and don't want to miss out on). I'm guessing Damion Downs is the striker. No idea about the midfielder though, Zeneli maybe?

So looks like Russell Martin has gone from managing in the top division in the world, to one that doesn't even rank in the top 30.

I would, and I'm pretty sure 10M would get a better player in the championship than Sulemana but that's mainly because he's set such a low bar. Shame really as he should have been an excellent player but he's had enough chances.

This is fascinating stuff. I think I speak for everyone in asking if we could have a whole new board completely devoted to player wages and reliable websites?

I scream for ice cream

Not sure he's quite Shteeve De Ridder but we were linked with this fella a week or so ago:

Seems to from this video Tall Paul is likely to be off and can't count on Stewart to be fit so it makes sense to get another big lad in. TBH I like having a bit more a physical threat up front and gives us so many more options. I loved it when we had Pelle up front but for whatever reason it's never felt like we've been dangerous at crosses since then.

I dunno, from a physical perspective he fits the profile we're looking for. Tall and rangy, and sounds like he has good pace and mobility. He's only 20 (although soon to be 21) and got a reasonable scoring record for a lad that's only really played one season. I don't know much about him but I think he definitely fits the bill for the kind of player we should be looking at and could see him battling Stewart for a starting position. Obviously in an ideal world we're looking for someone with a bit more experience but everyone wants one of them and they all cost way more. This is probably the kind of signing we'll be making. EDIT: Only got one year left on his contract too

Don't worry, we've got worse players on grass - you can have them next.

So in summary, there are potential benefits to a multi-club model but Saints haven't actually realised any yet. That about right?