revolution saint

How do you know this?

Presume you're talking about Peretz but equally could apply to Larin. Neither have wasted a year of their career (for one both only came in January) but they joined on loan to revive their careers when they weren't getting any game time. Both have undoubtedly done that so the loan moves have been unqualified successes. Peretz will almost certainly have better options and probably Larin too. If they don't rejoin then it won't be because of spying.

I'd expect Charles, Jander, Scienza, THB to definitely go. Peretz I doubt we can get, would be nice to think we could get Larin as he seems to like it here and given his recent record before he came here then he might be tempted if he doesn't get a better option. Reckon we've got a decent chance of keeping Fellows and Azaz. We'll probably have a half decent squad capable of challenging for play offs again. Tonda will obviously be gone so if we keep Spors that probably makes things a little smoother. If both go then that's going to be quite tough for any new management team to come in and hit the ground running. Thank god for the return of Damion Downs. That's one bright spot at least.

Is there actually any allegations of other clubs spying? From what I can tell it's a bit of hearsay and conjecture. My guess is nothing comes out to support it.

You forgot Damion Downs.

If winning six out of the first seven is shit then I'd quite like another shit manager.

Let's see if he gets sanctioned but I'd say if anyone should be carrying the can it should probably be Spors. Personally I'd be inclined to keep Tonda unless he gets hit with a year ban or something stupid like that. Ultimately the players seem to like him and he's been our best manager for a while now. SR have a generally shit record of appointing managers and I don't trust them not to fuck up another appointment.

TBF we had a few who refused to accept that JWP was ever going to leave us........

I'm considering selling them the "hope" of a seat and then snatching it away at the last second.

Got 4 tickets in 2nd tier so I'm happy with that. Only actually need one ticket but I'm an anti social bugger and it gives me room to stretch out.

Particularly relevant at the moment but it's annoyed me for a long time, adding the suffix 'gate' to any scandal. It doesn't make any sense or mean anything. Watergate was the name of the building that was broken into by Nixon's stooges. The "gate" in watergate has no relevance at all, you may as well add the whole name and call it, for example, Spywatergate.

Is it too much to hope it'll all be done and dusted by the end of tomorrow? Bored now.

Indeed, Hull vs Southampton is likely to have a very charged atmosphere.

59,000 posts of sitting on the fence and you break cover over Bungle from Rainbow? What did that bear do to you?

TBF, that does explain why his first priority was changing his clothes.

Not really a fan of Dire Straits but they did do a song called "Private Investigations" which would be quite apt. Also, "Watching the Detectives", Elvis Costello. "Spy (in the house of love", Was Not Was. Although my favourite, if 'Boro lose, would be "Sucker's Prayer" by Decemberists which contains the line "I wanna throw my body in the river(side) and drown".

Yvette Cooper would be my choice. Streeting would be OK, never really rated Raynor and Burnham has spent so long banging on about the North and how badly off they are that he can f*ck off.

Have saints done a “Pitchside Unseen” video for the game.yet?

The more I think about this, the more I doubt this is an isolated incident. I mean, 'Boro have failed to win in 8 of their last 10 games - I bet all those other 8 clubs were spying too.

Yeah, I agree. We've (apparently) been caught cheating. Doesn't really matter if 'Boro made the job of spying easier or not. Time to wheel out the whataboutery excuses is when we know what the punishment is and whether it fits the crime.

Hope we get a decision on what kind of punishment we get as soon as possible, that way everyone know where they stand and we can all move on. Totally daft decision by the club to engage in this kind of thing for what appears to be fairly marginal gains, counter argument to that though is that if the advantage is so minimal then why bother spying in the first place? My concern is who sanctioned it and how long has it been going on for? You can argue for a bit of leniency in the case of a rogue employee or a one off but if we've been doing this for a while and it's club sanctioned then that's more serious. Fucking stupid situation we've allowed ourselves to get caught up in.

Imagine a club statement will be imminent now. Blackmore and Alfie House have broke cover. They won’t want to send Tonda out to answer for them

If they like dealing with fucking toddlers then I think their crimes are worse than ours.

One of the potential penalties they could impose on us is a loan embargo meaning we'd have to keep Damion Downs next season. That seems excessively harsh to me.

No idea if it's true or not but spying on the opposition after a 46 game season seems a bit unnecessary. I guess we could get a glimpse into any new set pieces and fitness of Hackney but still don't think it would give us much of an advantage. I don't pay much attention to 'Boro but they've never really struck me as a sensationalist, dirty tricks kind of club. If you met 'Boro at a school reunion they'd be the one you had absolutely no recollection of.