VectisSaint

We played quite well after the first 20 minutes. But that is no good. We are becoming quite good at playing well when we go behind. But because we have almost forgotten how to score it is a complete waste of time. Playing well when you're losing is not anything to big up.

Coaching what? Hopefully not goal keeping...

This ridiculous thread is still rumbling on. Clear that we are selling no-one in January, and we need to keep Long AND get a new striker in (which is what is being indicated by Ronald) to make up for JRod not being available. We don't need to sell to bring in a new striker, we need to invest.

Hope you're right, but probability and form would say otherwise. Expect a reaction from them.

Chances of Spuds losing two on the trot?

Good idea, he would probably struggle to make an impact in our u21s like he is for Spurs reserves.

Think he's only missed a couple of games when he has been available. He missed much of pre-season, then had a minor injury, then on his first outing after recovery he was injured quite badly by a freak accident in the U21s. Has looked decent in the few games he has played once he had some sort of fitness back, the last couple of games. Seems well able to cope with the PL, but I suspect we won't see him at his best this season given the pre-season/early season nightmare. Not many outfield players recover from that sort of start until the following season. Pre-season is so important for the whole of the season. Maybe after Christmas he will start to show some return, he will be a good player for us, just not yet. I've seen enough in the little he has played that his range of passing is very good and is just what we need. What we have to do is stop comparing him to Morgan, he is different and it would take a very high class player to replace Morgan.

One parody account outing another.

Because to some extent last season we still did it, not as much but it was still a part of our game. This season all semblance of it has gone, and our fitness levels are way down on what they were.

You can't suddenly start playing that way. Ronald has a different way of playing and his training methods don't focus on the high levels of fitness that it needs. Its a great shame because many teams now do what we used to do and are reaping the rewards, while we have thrown away our very effective style.

Because we sat bsck and let them dictate after we scored. Same ss we only drew against Leicester and nearly threw it away against Boscombe. But some people still think things are going well this season.

If we continue to rest on our laurels snd bssk in past glories then we could. I doubt it will happen but blind faith as dome on here have is not the answer. Things need to chsnge.

You forgot Points Palace 3 Saints 0

What a load of absolute garbage. One decent season? More like 5, maybe 6. "**** happens we can't do anything about it we need to know our place", absolute crap. Reactions like this are so utterly pathetic. we haven't got beaten a few time, we have won only 5 league games this season, and have 1 draw from our last 5, that isn't just "luck" its because we have regressed and have forgotten how to get results and have too many players that don't turn up.

One draw (against bottom club) and 4 defeats from our last 5 games, is a dreadful run. People need to wake up and see that we are not progressing, we are going backwards.

I know Gazza had a lol moment of some sort when I was out of earshot just now, but he has probably made more saves in this game than Stek has made all season. Fair play.

Apparently part of the problem is that he is still having dead leg issues from a couple of years ago. He is not happy that Saints medical staff have not managed to resolve the issue.

Progress, we have regressed, we are lower mid table standard now.

Tosh. Even Koeman has said otherwise.

Although having 3 CBs in the starting line up/formation it is odd not having Caulker on the bench. It means any injury to any of the CBs means we will have to change formation.

The point is that most clubs would not have Gazzanigga or Davis anywhere near their first team squad, especially when one of the senior keepers is out long term. No one is seriously suggesting having Gazza and Davis and Stek and FF.

Why? Surely when discussing the line-up in the build up is when people should moan about the line up. If they are proven wrong, fine. More annoying are the ones who just meekly accept everything that is done and don't have a view on whether it is good or bad. The ones that come on afterwards and say that line up was rubbish are also annoying. Today's line up looks like a disaster waiting to happen, but then that's the problem with not having decent keeper backup when we knew we were only likely to have one first choice keeper available for most of the season (the news coming out of the training ground suggests FF may be back sooner than expected). It could have been worse, at least its Gazza and not Captain Slow. Guess that Yoshida is playing CB, that's fine, and dropping Pelle is something we should have done more often in the past.

Most would if they had the same fitness and conditioning regimes as nowadays, and many would be better than today's players because they were more technically gifted as well.

Maybe its Ronald thats on crack.

More likely that JRod has not provided that competition and isn't likely to much this season.