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He wasn't 2 hours late for a meeting. If that's what the Torygraph actually wrote then they are more stupid than I thought. He was late for the team meeting that started 2 hours before kick-off. Watch the interview with Ronald, rather than rely on rubbish reporting in the Torygraph.

No, he was late for the meeting 2 hours before kick off, not 2 hours late. How long do you think these meetings last

Which ones would that be?

Think 0-2 points means it would be more of a sinkhole.

Scotland, the well known Scandinavian country (I know he was loaned to Copenhagen but he joined us from Celtic).

Would be surprised if Caulker is involved in any way. Either he will be gone or will not be selected to avoid him being cup-tied. Of course he may be involved if he goes to Palace as is being touted. I really don't see why you would play Yoshida instead of VvD (not a Yoshida hater, he is good at CB, we need consistency in the back line).

Sounds like one for the future, not for now.

Its a ****ing big bump Ron says we're in trouble, that's good enough for me.

Players have openly said they have, so I think its safe to assume they have. Less intensity, much more ball work rather than fitness work pre-season. Maybe not specifically from last season, but since Ron took over.

Yes, guess you are right, if you take out all of the "Koeman players" and those not in the squad yesterday. But otherwise the Club Captain, the Team Captain and the Team Vice-Captain plus Bertie. Doubt they are planning a coup, more like what they are going to do about the waywards. Either that or it was Kelv's retirement party.

Caulker will be gone before the end of January, probably to Palace on a permanent. Note that he was not on the bench yesterday.

How many times has he actually had cramp?

Pretty smart getting back from Norwich already and out to a pub in Eling, surely they would still be sitting at the lights in Southampton City Centre wouldn't they? Bertie being there would be a bit odd, hardly a senior player, though interesting that none of Koeman's players were involved.

Up shît creek, but we still have a paddle somewhere in the boat, if only we can find it.

The meeting was today at Norwich according to Ronald, two hours before kick off. Its really difficult to see any reason why he was late, he was already at the team hotel or training base or whatever. I think they travelled yesterday, two hours before the match he wasn't still on the M27 or in Southampton.

This is so clearly a Koeman (Ronald and Erwin) team as its possible to be. Pelle, Tadic, Clasie, Martina, VvD, Stek. All clearly Koeman players, that's over half a team. Juanmi and Cedric, maybe not. Of course the mythical Black Box may have had some of these players in its sights, but the team has RK written all over it (as it should be).

According to Ronald, Ralph was giving the team a motivation speech yesterday, and today Mane turns up late (about 4.10, ). Ronald is fuming and is saying he can't manage the player. Maybe Sadio thinks the same about Ralph's motivational speeches as me

I really don't have a clue how many Sunderland might win, they are not really the issue. Can Newcastle win 3 more than us in the remainder of the season? You bet your life they can. They won 4 of their first 19, so if they win 4 of their last 19 and we win 1 then they could overtake us (simplistically speaking). Will they? Don't know, but that's all its down to now. Don't assume 40 will be safe this season, it is highly likely with the results so far that this will be one of those statistically unusual seasons when more than 40 is required.

Might have something to do with them not having lost 7 of their last 9 games. The only reason we are not currently in the relegation zone is because we picked up some points early on. That's fine and good that we did, but we show no signs of doing so on a regular basis in the near future without making some significant changes.

Exactly, well said. Precisely why I said significant parts of the dressing room. Two (at least) of our best, most influential players are no longer playing for him, and are treating him with huge disrespect.

Why? Is he going to play up front? Our problem really is not the keeper, or even the defence. Teams can concede one goal and still get points if they have the where with all to actually score. OK, if we keep a clean sheet we can get a point without scoring, but to be in a position where all the opposition have to do is score one for them to win the game is ridiculous. We have reverted to type, "Southampton Nil" is fast becoming our tag these days.

Been concerned for a while now, even before we started our long not winning streak, because we were playing badly for large parts of games that we still took something from (e.g. Leicester, Bournemouth). I still don't actually think we will get relegated, because I find it hard to believe that we cannot make changes and find 18 points before the end of the season. But changes are needed, and maybe that means Ronald. I really like him and he was terrific for us last season, but seems bereft of ideas now, and has lost significant parts of the dressing room. Just concerned that the Board are so weak that they will not take some sort of decisive action until it is too late.

Which this season will probably mean relegation. 40 points is the usual target I know, but it is so close this season that 40 will probably not be enough. Anyone who seriously still thinks that we are not heading towards possible relegation is simply kidding themselves. I still think it won't happen, but we need to start turning things around very soon an grinding out some results, a 0-0 today would have been acceptable against one of our potential rivals for the drop, losing against our rivals is a real problem.

Suspended

Did I say he was? You said until he makes Yoshida type mistakes, well he did.