VectisSaint

Thought he went out on loan on deadline day (1st September). That would have been more than 2 months after Ronald joined. He even played him on one game I think, it was a bit of a shock when Ramirez went out on loan.

No. No-one could make him look world class. [Yoshida was playing CB that night anyway].

Subs Davis, Clasie, Fonte, Davis, Tadic, Martina, Seager

Stelkenburg*, Yoshida, Caulker, Van Dijk, Targett, Romeu, Wanyama ©, JWP, Juanmi, Ramirez, Pelle *GK name according to Sky

So the run was no good because it wasn't shown on MoTD, priceless. Surprised you are allowed to stay up late to watch MoTD, or "Klopp Love in" as it has now been rebranded. By the way its 60k, not 50k according to the experts.

Dave Beasant always had a reputation for penalty saves, but don't recall whether he ever saved one for us.

This presumably stems from when he signed, when it was reported in the Echo "The report in Italy suggests Ramirez will be paid €2m a year and a €1m signing on fee by Saints - all net." [http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/9879668.Saints__agree_record_fee_for_Ramirez_/] The important word was "net". I tried to do the sums, but gave up, but if the report from Italy was true, then it would have meant at the time about£65k I think. Of course, if his contract was in Euros, then it would be a bit less now, nevertheless it is a significant wage, IF THE REPORTS FROM ITALY WERE TO BE BELIEVED.

Seems a bit of a strange interpretation of Ron's comments. Can't really see where you get the bit about being shoved off the ball from, amongst the comments. I think maybe that's your "opinion".

You seriously believe we don't? Think any chance of your arguments being taken remotely seriously were blown out of the water with that one alone.

we haven't got as strong as squad as we did two years ago and aren't as liberated from the perils of a potential relegation battle as we were then. This is not fact, and is patently not true. Think that's why exception was taken to your post. We have a much stronger squad, with competition for all (most places).

But probably he will play Davis who you seem to have forgotten...

Really? Don't usually beat bogey teams 6-1.

Everton equalised

Clearly nonsense. If he doesn't rate him he would not be giving him a chance. He's picking the team and including Ramirez in the squad at the moment. If he didn't rate him then he would not be doing so. Bit difficult for you to understand I suppose? Think you are the one who has the clown attributes.

Fuss about nothing. Arsenal used an unlicensed leech instead of a licensed leech. Did it make any difference? No. Nothing to do with Saints, other than the said leech managed to get us a vastly inflated fee.

I suspect it was as much to do with the club helping him when one of his close family members died back in 2012/13 season. Recall Adkins granting him compassionate leave at the time.

Actually he didn't. McCarthy (last season's captain and defensive leader) has gone out on loan since the last u21 game.

He will go for nothing, but we won't need to invest in a direct replacement. He is effectively surplus to requirements at the moment.

You're right. They have updated the highlights, and removed that play. Maybe it was too embarrassing for Pelle :-) But it was there. The latest version was published at midnight and is about 3 minutes longer in total. Bizarre. 45.39 in the link that Coxford_Lou posted (Complete 2nd Half) http://lasthighlight.com/liverpool-v...ts-full-match/

It was on Saints Player immediately after our goal.

Agree with your sentiment but why would anyone play 4 of Wanyama, Clasie, Davis & JWP, that is far more defensive than we play away in the league with only Tadic and Pelle offering any attacking threat. I believe Targett is "unavailable" (but no confirmation, just been noticeably absent from anything recently, including the us21s tonight) and Wanyama is nursing some serious knocks from Sunday, and of course Mane is out. JRod is also out until at least Sunday. So Romeu for Wanyama and either Juanmi or Gaston for Mane.

His defensive qualities are at least equal to Tadic, don't think we have structured our squad to take care of his defensive frailties. But Ronald's structure/formation means that we can deal with a player who offers little in defence because of our strong defensive midfield. Gaston used to get shown up when Nigel was in charge, because we had a relatively open middle. I just watched the highlights again, ignoring Gaston's assist (which was a terrific header), the passage of play afterwards when he picked the ball up just outside of the penalty area, surged forward and made a great opportunity that Pelle wasted and then even more importantly Gaston's follow up afterwards really was a remarkable piece of play, some elements of whichweare very much at odds with the "old" Gaston. Perhaps after all Ronald and his coaching staff are instilling something into him which is beginning to have an effect and which may, just may result in a much improved player.

I was thinking someone else to be fair...

So we need someone with an eye for detail and pedantry to let us know all of the players who are wearing Nike instead of Adidas. Then we need to get someone to nick their boots and sell them down Pompey market.

Amazing that people forget his goals and assists. It has not "cost us" £20m, the money we paid and the wages were budgeted, and he gave some return, especially in his first season. Of course it would be nice if we could get some benefit from him leaving, but we won't.