VectisSaint

Could be. Possible excuses why Fonte and Pelle might have missed training. Hasn't Vic played every minute as well? Yesterday's session was all about recovery.

Everybody is a Manchester United target. I got a call yesterday, it was probably from them, though in the end I put the phone down before anyone their end spoke, but I'm almost certain it was Woodward.

So why did everyone else train? No-one has said they are injured or unavailable, just merely pointing out that 2 players apparently missed training yesterday. Why specifically would Fonte and Pelle not train, if anyone I would have not been suprised at Yoshida, he was knackered with all the running he did on Thursday playing at RB instead of CB.

Well they did. It wasn't a discussion point. Gallery on os/twitter.

Fonte and Pelle appear to have missed training today. Cedric clearly has a very minor leg injury. Only 16 outfield players training, including Gaston. No youngsters other than JWP, Targett and Reed. I'm not reading anything into this, just saying.

BUt he's not slagging us or anyone off. Have you actually read what he has written? If so do you comprehend it? Seems like you're the fruitloop if you think anything in either of those pieces is "slagging off". You just saw it was by someone who you have a problem with and assumed it would be what you wanted it to be. Its not, get over it. Move on and look for something else that suits your agenda.

Not much evidence of Crook talking ****e in those articles. Seems a fairly decent assessment of the Mane and Reed situations. In fact its quite refreshing to read this sort of tripe by someone who at least has done some basic research

He's at ManU now, he will be. You underestimate the man.

Cedric for Yoshida, Yoshida for Caulker and Davis for JWP and that's the team. Bringing Davis back in to the advanced midfield role should give us the energy that we missed last night with JWP (who had a surprisingly good game defensively, winning several tackles and headers). It might be good to give Juanmi a start though, but that would be at the expense of JRod, think we need JRod.

He actually probably added about 3.5 minutes for it (6 minutes on the board, but he would also have added 2.5 for the subs) and then added another minute during stoppage time. He added zero for it in the first half, despite them time wasting from the start. Ref gave us lots last night, but he didn't take control of the time wasting which was awful, especially the injury feigning to break up play as well). He also failed to book #2 Kian Hansen (the knob with the bob) who was the worst offender.

This. There was no other valid reason. He did OK really, but we do miss the overlapping runs of a proper RB. However, he was at fault with others (Rodriguez and Fonte) for our goal. Although I could see the logic of not playing Cedric, why not play Martina instead, he could have provided the attacking option and also helped with the aerial threat.

Romeu was probably our best player last night. He also changed things massively on Saturday when he came on. Not bad for someone straight in the team. He will probably never completely replace Morgan, people need to understand that Morgan is really a world class player, there are not many of his standard around so how can you replace, but Romeu is not too shabby. Only down side is that he has picked up 2 yellows already, though to be fair neither were warranted. Picking up a yellow early in a game does have a detrimental effect, having to play with a bit of caution subsequently. Will be good to see him play without a card hanging over his head. That said Morgan was not exactly unfamiliar with cards of various colours. It goes with the territory.

Don't think you really understand do you. Romeu looks very good (better than expected when replacing a top class player who has left), and he and Clasie will both (eventually) be in the team.

After the international break.

Hate to break this to you but we have already signed Morgan's replacement. He also looks half decent.

Agreed, said this to my neighbour early in the game tonight and many were saying the same. It is just plain daft not to leave an outlet. 10 in the box makes no sense.

So stop reading Alpine's posts. He is the only one. Its quite amusing finding some people who expect to see these sort of posts and even though they don't exist they pretend that they do. No-one other than Alps is writing off the season, but really if you can't see that we have a lot of problems that need to be sorted then that's as bad as those (one) who are supposedly writing off the season.

Apparently he went to Chelea because Cesc's girlfriend persuaded his London was better than Manc. She has a point. We need some influential WAGs.

Good memories. Heaney did join them when they were in the Championship (or whatever the second level was called then). Mills made 2 appearances. Baker and Channon are more my era, and I remember both going to Citeh and returning afterwards.

Appears that you are the only one who is actually stating this in any form whatsoever. Imagining bed-wetters, that really is about as bad as it gets.

How many of our players have the top 2 clubs actually taken so far? Who was the last player transferred from Saints to Man City or Chelsea. I guess Chelsea was Wayne Bridge. Man City - Graham Baker? Who have I forgotten? Its really only the teams chasing the CL spots that have bought our players in bulk, Liverpool and now Man U, even Arsenal have only bought one every 2 or 3 years over the last few years. Spuds - Bale? I think theres plenty of scope for more :-)

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Little item of note from the OS Training Gallery, the appearance of one Gaston Ramirez. Otherwise all the usual suspects (though no keepers in the pics) including Mane, Caulker and Romeu.

Probably makes it even less likely we will get Koulibaly, since this helps the Napoli financial situation.

So just collect players because they are alleged to be good players, even though they might not bring anything to our team and may block the progress of an existing player. It is about as far removed from saying we were only developing Toby for Spurs as it could possibly be, that is patently a completely daft comparison. With Toby we at least believed we had first option on buying him, and so were developing him for us, at worst we could have been accused of developing him for AM. Spurs were never even in the equation. Bottom line is I don't see what this kid brings to Southampton, unless we have an option to buy clause in the loan. Van Gaal doesn't think he contributes (enough) at Man U, so why should we? Seems like Ronald agrees anyway, we are only looking for one more player, and that is a defender.