VectisSaint

Never heard anyone having much negative to say about Vic. The only criticism of him I can remember was that his passing was poor to start off with, but that was soon overcome. Really find it odd that anyone could think he was a scapegoat at any time, we had plenty of others around when he joined that took on that mantle.

Being pedantic, its actually 5, unless Gaston has left since I last looked. Only 3 teams have sold more than us, Chelsea, Liverpool and Spurs.

Clyne is not spine, and FF has been adequately replaced by Stek. Assuming we get replacement for Toby, I don't think this is a reason for us not to finish as high as 7th. Europa League might be a reason. I still reckon we will finish in the Top 8 though, perhaps 5th or 6th.

ST finally arrived yesterday. Typical, expecting it all week, and it arrives on Saturday while I was away for the weekend.

So actually the Express is reporting that the Sun is reporting this. Quite how the Sun know is beyond me. But would not be surprised. Don't be fooled that FF is walkin and in training gear, so was JRod last August or so.

Sorry, you can try to dress him up any way you like, but he was complete and utter dross and a prime example of how not all players from the SPL that we sign even indirectly work out wwell, which was the point of the thread. I forgot Neil McCann as well.

Ditto

Still nothing on Points West

Same block, doesn't make much difference, often used to leave via C anyway. There is no partition inside the ground.

Yes, but Celtic before that. Going to Burnley in between did not make him any less turd.

ffs, Brenda's even raiding our supporters now.

There were a lot of possible opponents that really would have been a darn sight easier than Vitesse. Probably the hardest draw that we could have got (ignoring teams like Dortmund who it was not possible to draw) at this stage.

Glad some people have finally woken up to my Bridge Too Far references from an hour or so ago. By the way the bridge in the picture is not in Arnhem, the movie was shot in Deventer, about 35km away. The bridges are very similar though (the John Frost bridge in Arnhem)

Mayo

Delicious opponent just too early! Alas! Very nice club to play at and fun to go, but I estimate the probability that we continue very small This is a very tough one. (Dit is een hele zware dobber.). I like this one

95 quid on the train, but 18 hours, 0r 135 quid on plane/train, about 14 hours :-(

Looks like its now been confirmed as home leg first, seemed likely. Saints have ticket details on the OS and confirm the 1st leg is at St Marys.

Vitesse are quicker at putting a bit on their web site than our lot http://www.vitesse.nl/nl/nieuws/detail/5114/vitesse-in-europa-league-gekoppeld-aan-southampton

Yes, it is still possible that it could be switched, can't see any reason why except possibly because West Ham are at home first (if they get through). Don't think I would book anything just yet.

Arnhem

Vitesse, then, A Bridge too far

Just about to do our draw

Has this thread morphed into "Players Who Never Should Have Joined Southampton"?

There are some potentially tough games in that group, for a qualifying round, if we are looking to progress rather than just go on a beano. I hope we avoid Vitesse, I think that could be a bridge too far this early in the season.

Two words: Danny Fox