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So why would she have felt at home? Some folks still don't seem to have grasped, Markus and his daughter have nothing to do with the Liebherr engineering company (the one that makes cranes, fridges etc). Nothing, other than it is owned by Markus' brother and sister. KL is not part of that business AFAIK, and neither was Markus since he sold all of his shares years ago before starting his own business (MALI), and even his business now no longer exists to all intents and purposes. Did KL have a business career of her own before she inherited her father's "empire"? It might be interesting to know what her own background is, to know whether she has any particular business acumen/skills which she can bring to the table, but I don't think she is connected in any way to Liebherr or even to MALI (other than overseeing its demise).

What a strange comment. Slight difference between the role of Honorary President and Chief Executive Officer, wouldn't you say? The word "Honarary" is perhaps the clue as to the differences in the size, complexity and stress levels of the two roles. You do realise that Painer really has no official duties in terms of running the business or even the club. As I said only slight concern would be his age, near retirement age, old git, even older than me (not by a lot though) unlikely to be a go-getting dynamic CEO with fresh ideas, but who knows.

1974. He is 64 though, only small concern.

We were 8th today until Sunderland equalised. Newcastle only had to play Wet Sham so easy 3 points for them today, of course they are catchable.

Clearly touches it with his toe first, though it is irrelevant. Those who don't see the touch really need to go to Specsavers or become PL referees

You haven't been in England for a while, I had forgotten that the sky is blue.

No sign of Kelvin the training pictures

5pm, Nando's, West Quay. Luke will therefore be unwell tomorrow.

Trousers, I think that is right, and MALI effectively no longer exists. Only one of the constituent parts is still trading, all the others were closed AFAIK. KL resigned from the MALI-Motan group last Autumn apparently (at the same time as NC). Did KL have other business interests of her own that were nothing to do with Markus? Maybe, would be good to know because there is nothing out there on the interweb that says one way or another. Maybe still some people think she is something to do with the main Liebherr business, which she isn't. There is a lot of crap written, not least by the Echo that I jsu found about her being part of the massive Liebherr empire, people putting 2 and 2 together and making multi billions. Markus was not part of that empire, he sold his stake in it many years ago and went his own way.

Short term: By the end of the season he could be the 3rd longest serving PL manager. In football the end of the season could be considered the medium or even the long term.

The stripes will return, they will be blue and white and we will be re-branded the Southampton Skates. Careful what you wish for.

Seems very odd the so many are stating this as if its a given, when in fact the reports are that this has happened because she refused to sell the club (presumably to an alternative buyer that NC had identified). I don't actually believe that she has any intention of selling the club, but that's just my view. This is really bad news, non-exec chairwoman who has no interest in and little understanding of football in search for new Exec. NC's ambition clearly exceeds KL's ambition, now we will be limited in what we can do. Doing this in the middle of the transfer window as well, idiocy. Still at least this will see the demise of the Cult of Cortese. I guess some of our friendly trolls will be along soon to say "I told you so, I was right all along". Oh joy.

#ourdreamisreal #****happening

Predictable that you would come on this thread and gloat. Of course you are bang on the money again, you really are a fecking bore and your scatter gun approach reaps its rewards once more. Nothing to do with the fact that perhaps his injury has had an effect on his physical condition and has not been able to reproduce the form he showed briefly when he arrived. It happens to players, there are many many examples. No one ever said he was going to be a massive player, or a global superstar simply that he gave the appearance of someone who would do well in the PL. We will never know due to his injuries, but at least he was interesting for a while, provided some good moments, goal of the season against Derby and a couple of helpful assists. But of course you wouldn't recognise that would you? Crawl back under your bridge.

Actually it isn't a fallacy. It is one of the main defences against defamation. At least in England & Wales. You may be getting mixed up with privacy laws. But the defendant in a criminal case would have to prove the statement was true. Allowable defenses are justification (the truth of the statement), fair comment (whether the statement was a view that a reasonable person could have held), absolute privilege (whether the statements were made in Parliament or in court, or whether they were fair reports of allegations in the public interest) and qualified privilege (where it is thought that the freedom of expression outweighs the protection of reputation, but not to the degree of granting absolute immunity). An offer of amends is a barrier to litigation. A defamatory statement is presumed to be false unless the defendant can prove its truth

Yes thanks, I was at the game yesterday, as at every game this season bar Wet Sham, something to do with being a ST holder. Habe been at games for last 40+ years as well come to that. Also a FA Coach. Not that any of that is relevant. Why is it you and the Fez fella think you are the only ones who know anything about football and that anyone who criticises your hero SRL knows nothing. Fact is mate that it seems you have a lack of knowledge yourself if you think our midfield is pedestrian, you really think Lallana was pedestiran yesterday? You do know he plays in midfield? Steve Davis pedestrian, you are having a laugh. So who in MF do you think was pedestian? I don't know what you think Lambert did yesterday that was so outstanding, two average CBs snuffed him and J-Rod out of the game completely. Rickie is a great player, but he is having a bit of a rocky patch at the moment. If you can't accept criticism of a player who had a bad day by his high standards yesterday then it is probably best that you don't post because clearly you are a little precious. You and Fez saw the game one way, I and many others saw it a different way, but of course your view must be right because you are the uber football knowledge expert and only your self important view is acceptable. Well mate, you are wrong. And in so many ways. No more posts left today, so if you are a little upset by my response I'm very sorry. I'm sure you'll get over it and will post your pearls of wisdom regardless.

Love it when people put things like this, in other words if you disagree with me you are an idiot, or perhaps a mong or a helmet, terms others use on here in similar situations. Rickie was poor yesterday, contributed very little, but that's a form thing and also the Baggies took good care of him and negated his threat very effectively. J-Rod was equally poor. I can only think that you mean if Rickie had not been playing we would have only had 10 men. Just because he is a "legend" doesn't mean he can't be criticised. Although I wouldn't even go as far as actually criticising, but if you think he played well or that we wouldn't have been better with someone else playing in his place then I'm afraid that my opinion is that it is you that does not understand football.

Must have been a very dodgy stream you were watching. Adam was captain, handed over the arm band to Rickie (note spelling) when he went off.

Palace fan on 606 was scathing about him generally and hopes he goes back to us asap.

Lovren and Fonte are a good partnership. Fonte has been better than Lovren defensively several times this season, but Lovren gets all the plaudits. They work together well, complementing each other's styles. It would not be easy to replace Fonte with someone better who works as well with his partner. They are a bit like Claus and Killer, together they are better than the two individuals. But it is right that it is Fonte's side that needs strengthening. I think some people are a bit naive when it comes to squad strength, you will never have 4 CBs in the squad of the same quality, that is why two will always be backup, if two more came in as good or better than Lovren one of them would soon get fed up and leave. Yoshida is OK as backup for Lovren and to a lesser extent Fonte. Hooiveld is just not good enough, but I suspect it will be easier to offload Yoshida than Jos - surprised we haven't offered Jos to Wet Sham, he could do a job for Big Sam and ensure their relegation.

Yes, he was. He was very good against Cardiff though. He was awful a few times last season as well, especially when he played at LB or RB. But was excellent second half of season when he played alongside Fonte. Although he can play both sides, he is much better on the left. He played on the right against Villa. This is the problem we have at the moment, we have 3 left sided CBs and one right-sided. Yoshida won't get much game time because he is effectively backup to Lovren. What we need is to offload Jos and get a replacement or backup for Fonte (although Fonte has been excellent this season and on a few occassions has outclassed Lovren).

You're right of course, didn't check as closely as I usually do (memory and old age). In principle though the comment was still valid, just blaming the wrong incompetents, happy to point the finger at Redkrapp, apologies to Agents Orange :-)

Mark Wright was only 18 when he joined us. Not an academy product but still very young for a CB. He had played a handful of games for Oxford in the previous two seasons. He played 39 times the following season, so almost every league game. Malcolm Waldron was not bad and was an apprentice for us. Thought we had 2 good CBs a few years back with Mills and Cranie, but things went wrong with them, they were probably destroyed by the whole Dutch experiment when Lowe was around, they both should have done much better than they did.

You're entitled to your opinion. He was more than adequate last season when partnered with Fonte. He may not be as good as Lovren, but then only 9 CBs in Europe are apparently, and none of them play in the PL. Unfotunately some people judged Yoshida on the games when he first appeared and especially when he played at RB or LB where is admittedly crap. Play him on the left side of a CB partnership with Fonte and he is good, and a perfectly good backup for Lovren. Jos on the other hand seems to have lost it and we should be trying to bring in a replacement. The other advantage Yoshida has over Jos is that he can play left or right, whereas Jos struggles to play left and cannot play right under any circumstances. Yoshida is perfect backup for our two first choice CBs.

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