Give it to Ron

Had some really good chances to get a better result. Played some decent stuff against a very good City side. Doing better Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I saw Imbula play and he looked quality but expensive Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I saw Kondogbia play recently and he looks an upgrade on Big Vic. If Arsenal have any sense they will sign him rather than Vic Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Yep they did when the goals were going in and at kick off all just had heads down - what I would expect from when my team concedes is for them to draw ranks - rally the team - did Davis/Mane do that or did they just do as they do most weeks and try? I am not talking about triers....I have no doubt v Liverpool they did. What I am saying is that in the games I mentioned above there wasn't one player that I saw do what I would expect from leaders of the team. Against Leicester we were bombarded not one of our midfield put in a battling performance second half - against Liverpool our midfield just ran alongside - perhaps I am too old school and my dreams of Jimmy Case re-incarnation are too much to hope for.

Or their agents unsettling them by alleged approaches from Bayern/Barca/Spurs/Man Utd.

There is a difference between what you and I think are leaders then, get sleeves rolled up , encourage, boll0ck others, gee them up and grab the game by the scruff of the neck and your idea of players busting a gut and trying. Brett Ormerod busted a gut would you say he was a leader?

Really you have been watching a different team than me....not one player against Leicester, Liverpool, Man City took our team and rallied them - they just looked at the ground and hid

Sam Byram isn't a right back - he can't get in Leeds side and has been playing right wing for last 2 seasons according to my Leeds mate.

The problem with one player though is obvious - injured out for long periods and still have to pay his large salary. It didn't work with Osvaldo or Gaston plus you unsettle the others if you break the wage structure. We need to rediscover our identity - for me that's getting back an English spine or capable players of an English spine. We need to recruit leaders as we don't have any from what I have seen this season. The club does not have to spend a fortune to put us right - in my opinion we have lost 6 points from not having a right back other than Cedric and I can't believe there isn't one available in the Championship/L1 that can do a job at a sensible price. Austin for me is worth a gamble as is Matt Phillips - the one thing we don't have in our squad is someone to change the game or style when required - a wide man in the squad would help us. We need a Mark Noble type of player to compliment what we have.

Exactly our squad is short on proven Premiership players yet here we have a post selling one of the most experienced!!! Bonkers Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Plus he was also so brilliant at Hull he kept them up, was the first name on the teamsheet, they moved heaven and earth to sign him......oh

A picture that paints a thousand words - exactly what I was screaming at last night - can someone send that to the Koemans!

5 things from last night 1. Klopp sussed us out pretty quickly put 3 men around Pelle who pick up his flicks and passes and starves us of possession - no plan B 2. Caulker had an absolute mare and not up to this level - we have no-one on our bench who can change a game 3. We have absolutely no leaders in our team - not one player who is willing to roll up their sleeves and boll8ck others 4. Koeman needs to tell our midfield they are allowed to tackle - running alongside isn't doing a good job and we are crap without the ball 5. It was a rubbish way to celebrate my birthday!!!

Good post. That is what makes the signing of Martina even more odd - a right back that can defend and put in a decent cross surely cannot be that hard to find across the leagues? It's not like a 20 goal striker - everyone wants one but to recruit what all the Dutch fans thought was a joke yet can't get a game for love nor money strikes me as really odd in a position that should be easy to recruit in.

Why is it a good call? Byram has been playing right wing not right back for over a season - he can't get in a shambles of a Leeds side under any manager and we don't play right wingers!!

"greatful" and you are a teacher???? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Germany v Holland off due to security warnings Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

If it blew at Krap Nottarf would cause a million pounds worth of improvements

Yep those are the biggest issue facing football still - agents and players obscene wages forcing players into teams they have no real right to play for and end up lost and useless. A classic example against Villa the other week with Sinclair. Mane has talent and would love him to stay here and become a real star but think his agent will see the mega £'s and another player will fail in Manchester

A big mistake for Sadio to go to Man Utd- his first touch isn't good enough for that level and the expectation they will have on him. He is brilliant for us but I don't see him making it there we have far lower expectation and pressure on players than them - certainly not under Van Gaal's man management. January is the wrong time to sell him as Jayrod needs longer to recover and discover the form he had before that injury. Any new player will have to jump straight in and thats tough.

Exactly my thoughts too. Belluci got star slot but only in for about 5 minutes. Casino Skyfall and then Spectre for me as well Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

The ability to pass the ball accurately forward and thread it through tight spaces - JWP just at the moment plays it too safe sideways backwards.

Talent there once he gets a bit of stamina and game time will be good. He had a couple of bad injuries so working his way into the team plays. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Pelle unbelievable first half just watch his link up play and bought others into it. 3 points move on Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I for some reason have a bad feeling about tonight - cant see us scoring many without Mane, Long or Jayrod available. Villa with over 3k along will want to show something after Sherwood going. Tougher game than some think and all about our attitude to this game as anything less than total will see us out.