Polaroid Saint

So you think China's One Child Policy stems entirely from a conversation over a beer with a Dutch Statistician in 1978? Really? Honestly? Think about that in the context of Chinese history. It does make you look rather foolish. You also assume that I read the Guardian and then call it a 'rag'. This betrays a lack of an open attitude or approach to researching this or any other argument. Which is a real shame as I can see there is wit and intelligence in there somewhere, if only you weren't so desperate to prove a point (any point!). In response to that particular article and the efforts of the PopOffset scheme you may be surprised (but please don't let it depolarise your world view!) that I too think it is an Obscene idea. I think 'obscene' is the right word for the policy being discussed in the article. However, please note it is Population Matters that are promoting this, not the Guardian... ...as, if you had 'read the article online or in print,' would be clear. 'Educate yourself, on me;' "But other thinkers, such as the Guardian columnist George Monbiot, say global population increase pales into insignificance when compared with the effect of increased consumption and economic growth."

China's Policy was NOT the result of "computer modeling'. That is, simply put, a lie. (I don't like liars, no matter how 'funny' or 'clever' they think they are being. Lying hurts people; maybe not straight away but somewhere down the line.) Let's be fair and say you are just repeating someone else's mistaken inference. Either way GM, you may do well to heed the advice that; it is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt.

I despair I really do. I post a reasoned and considered comment. Over long and boring, admittedly, but full of stuff to rip apart or nod sagely too. Either way! One normally reliable poster (GM) keeps on posting what I can only assume are efforts to provide some sort 'balance' (because without the other comments they would just seem unhinged) I guess the anarchic side coming through!? And then this lazy ****wit of a link gets posted. Sergei - you have successfully 'trolled' me on this one, well done! Unless you really believe that link, in which case I feel sorry for you and your feeble little mind. I suspect you have trouble eating etc. So I'll be kind and not be rude to the less fortunate anymore. Again, I am using a mobile device so can't immediately tell what forum I am on. Must be the Muppet Show. Without the jokes.

1850-1870 Level of carbon dioxide gas (CO2) in the atmosphere, as later measured in ancient ice, is about 290 ppm (parts per million). Mean global temperature (1850-1870) is about 13.6°C. 2012 Level of CO2 in the atmosphere reaches 394 ppm. Mean global temperature is 14.6°C. This GRADUAL INCREASE in global temperature has happened at a time when the planet should be DECREASING in temperature due to various natural occurrences, primarily oceanic oscillation, polar wander, tectonic shift and decreased solar activity (current {11 year} solar cycle 24 is the least active on record and cycle 25 is predicted to be worse, the 200 year solar cycle is the least active {ergo coolest} since the Little Ice Age). All the readings (not 'evidence' or 'stats', just plan old readings off of instruments n that) show that every time the earth has come out of an ice age, CO2 goes up (well, duh!), rapidly self propelling more CO2 until a gradual decline to a new ice age. We SHOULD be entering a period of cooling, and if you wish to support the 'all natural causes' argument, this is very odd, as it appears we are not cooling. So what's stopping, or at least tempering, the expected cool down? What has changed on Earth in the last 11 thousand years that might buck the global trend of some 56 million years? Could human civilisation be an influence? It's not just CO2 of course. Other Green House Gases are rather vital to the whole thing. Methane from livestock for example. There are some very controversial theories, although recently supported by some excellent research from the University of Bristol, that Mankind has been influencing (dare I say 'changing'?) the global climate for millennia. The correlation between humans starting to clear land, plant paddy fields, developing irrigation and turning to agriculture (between 8000 and 5800BC) to the jump in CO2 and Methane recorded from 8000 years ago, is certainly worth exploring further. Are those green house gas/CO2/temperature levels casual or causal? That's a fair area of debate, as historical records of civilisation are not as accurate as scientific measurements; although anyone who knows the rough dates of the growth of human civilisation, the industrial revolution and things like natural methane expulsion and the normal time-span of the global carbon cycle would be wise to at least consider a causal relationship. Global Warming is a funny old term as it confuses many normal people, so I prefer Climate Change. You can then at least try explain how heating up the central surface diameter of a sphere which has fluids around it can cause other areas on the surface to flow colder while others flow hotter. Basic convection science. Then again I think I might have just lost any of you who have bothered to read this far. Let's just say; its weather innit? Humans have burnt fossil fuelsand radically altered the biodiversity of the planet steadily for 30 thousand years and have now started to do so rapidly. In addition, in a convergent trend, the earth's climate cycle does most assuredly, appear to have altered and a shift away from the old ice age cycle is developing. And, really, whether or not you choose to differentiate between 'man made' or 'natural' matters not one jot. (Personally, logically, I see humanity as PART of the natural history of this planet, who can it not be?): it IS happening. Now, let's just agree on that and start building cities under the sea, giant domes to live under and massive solar thermal arrays in the desert, yeah?

There is NO way Anfield would get the Kop back. As a club they are 100% behind keeping seating. If Safe Standing is allowed many clubs will go for a small section as a test, but Liverpool will not. They have already stated such. Personally I think it could and should be brought in and could, if managed correctly, provide both an atmospheric and financial boast.

I, for one, cannot control my excitement at the thought of some sort of Asparagus Away Kit. Or perhaps highly detailed workings of an Eterna watch for the silver grey third kit?

I suspect most of you had already read this, it being from Practical Fish Keeping magazine n all, but it seemed like an important thing to pass on, just in case. http://www.practicalfishkeeping.co.uk/content.php?sid=6034

Written in plain English, with easy to follow maths, this is a must read for anyone really interested in looking at the present and future of energy supply and demand. A stunning piece of work that really 'cuts the cr@p.' http://www.withouthotair.com

Bundles of fun! Thank you for pointing out that my ignorance is bliss. Perhaps, as I am corporate whore and didn't actually have to worry about being told to sit down or sweat through my jeans and £50 replica shirt which I hate, I was able to enjoy the sight and sound of my fellow Saints, at least little more than worrying about the uptake of our tickets? Bless you and, either way, I thought you sang beautifully.

Excellent. That's the kind of positivity and eloquence that keeps me coming back to this forum.

One of the best unplanned and fractured train journeys ever! Took three times longer than it should and was five times as fun - Back via Manchester with unscheduled stops in Birmingham, Oxford and Reading with plenty of neutrals (and Mancs) giving 'props' and 'nuf respect' to the Saints! Do we, now, have the best away support in the Premiership? I think so.

In need of first team football - with Evra in front of him, plus the Brazilian twins. Shaw would be first choice still here. I rate Buttner though, Solid and strong, doesn't get caught by the ball over the top (as so many attacking 'wing backs' do these days) plus he has weighed in with a couple cracking goals he has scored in his few appearances too. If Shaw was injured, he would be a great back up, but there is no point loaning out players to warm other teams benches alas. I reckon Fox will be fine as cover this season - he had a marish season last year and dont we all know it. I still dont think that was due entirely to him being sh!te either, just one of those cr&ppy seasons where if anything could go wrong, it went wrong with Fox in the middle of it. I suspect he is a better footballer this year and (hope) that he has learnt from any mistakes and (PRAY) that he has shuck off the jinx of last year. with the Clyne to the left/Chambers on the right/Corky 'He plays anywhere' and Maya able to cover FB too, I reckon we will be okay in this position. If Shaw plays 38 games, we will be excellent in this position.

Yes, of course. Because football players stop developing and improving at 27; they stagnate and never ever get any better, unable to adapt or build on their years of experience to improve their game. I mean, look at Ricky Lambert for example.

No Tossas on this link? Hmmm, do they still exist?!

Let's just hope he doesn't pick up an injury tripping over his laces.

Did this a year or so back for charity, although I don't like to talk about it. I was genuinely amazed at how powerful the experience was; akin to a bungee jump for adrenaline release. Breaking an arrow on my throat was rather cool too, only a few of us in the group did that. But really, the fire walk itself came at the end of what was an hour or so of a very good motivational talk by an ex SAS chap. I can remember a lot of what we were taught and have used it since. I should imagine what this is about too, all pretty standard science and motivational thinking, but done like this it really was very empowering.

This exactly. It may be deluded, but I am willing to believe that having a positive, hard working, runner in midfield can add to the team in more than just the individuals contribution. A team is more than a sum of its parts. Plus, vitally, he was bald and as we all know bald saints midfielders are, by default, football geniuses.

My immediate thoughts exactly. We really were getting him ready for the new season. In Norway. Sad to see Chaplow go, was absolutely vital in us gaining promotion. Reckon we would have won it if he'd come back as strong from injury.(!?) Clearly something of the CMFG about him too!

Think I might have found my shirt for the season. Admittedly, it's not got any red on it, but it has got quite nice stripes! Just got back from Barcelona where the lovely new Barca away kit was everywhere, but of course, I wanted something a little different. Hardly any (decent) Esanyol kits anywhere, so this seems just right...

Whoops. Didn't realise I was in TMS. Just replying to latest threads on a tablet, whilst listen to TMS (the other one, you know with the cricket). Next time I will say something like: Reading is the tits, I got offered three rocks of crack for only ten quids last time I was hanging outside 613 the pleasure zone.

There is a plenty to dislike, but it does sound like you're referencing your personal experiences of working there (and the people you worked with) rather than the town itself. Never ventured to the Oakford? Or Sub89? Rising Sun (either pub or arts centre)? 21 south street? Or even the Rivermead? Or Hexagon? Not forgetting the numerous arts and music festivals. I am not sure why I am defending Reading quite so much, it is hardly my favourite place in the world, but it is renowned for good art and music on the 'alternative' scene at least.

Reading? It's ugly for sure, but has a vibrate arts scene and is excellent for Music all year round, with a number of small venues hosting the most cutting edge bands. Include the surrounding towns and Reading is, cultural at least, a pretty decent town. But then, I'd that's not your sort of thing you wouldn't know that. Basingstoke on the other hand, yes awful.

Yeah. I got a £4 red training top from soccerworldofsport.com and it's, like, red. Hehe stuff you Saints. Seriously, I cannot believe you have done this. Why? Actually, I don't care why, more fool you. Supporting the team wearing a red and white scarf your nan made is one thing, but this is just silly. I guess you'll buy a car sticker or something to make up for it, hey? ( Which would be step in the right direction.)

It is quite easy to pick out trolls. Just read their posts. Like this one.

This is good. By what do we mean valuable? Lickie has been, in real terms, the most valuable saints player of all time. MLT for keeping us up at least four maybe six seasons, got to be worth a few bob. Money/sky was different then obviously, but had we sold him to man u or whoever he probably would have broken any English transfer record. Who would, nay *should* command the highest fee as a player? Bale. Simply put the best footballer in the world right now, outside messi n neyhmar.* Ron Davis, by all accounts, would also be in the reckoning. Too young to have seen him myself, but old enough to recognise the ardent and genuine admiration in those who did. Sent from my cracked and broken Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 2