Polaroid Saint

It's basic word association that's the problem: Barack = Iraq Hussein = erm, Hussein Obama = Osama Biden = Bin Laden McCain = chip Palin = python Too true, the entire staff would change (expect maybe Col Powell) - at the moment, Bush's advisers are the same neo-cons that have building the US military-industrial elite since GHWBush was president and have been wielding big powerful political sticks right back to Nixon's time... ...the clever bastards.

I read that as Afghan Valley Mountain Biking. Now THAT is extreme mountain biking.

'Wnid power' is not a 'myth'. Yes it is currently heavily subsidised but so is every other power lobby. What kind of 'subsidisation' (cost) is hidden in Nuclear power? The Nuke lobby is far better funded than eco-power lobbies - for the moment at least - and also has a fifty year start on alternative energy sources in terms of RnD and Deployment. Build costs for Nuclear are staggeringly huge and can only be justified on a large scale (eg current plans for new UK power stations require an absolute minimum of six stations to built to meet cost expectations) and subsequent running costs are simply NOT figured into the cost per watt. Clean up and disposal falls to Governments and therefor the tax payer. This is a massive hidden charge. None of this mentions the safety angle, which probably need not bother us - but your Grand Kids might not be too happy with our 'state-of-the-art' nuclear power stations, in much the same way most Londoners are less than impressed with victorian 'state-of-the-art' water and sewage systems. Small scale Wind (and other renewable enegy sources) are in the early days of development and deployment in the modern world, but are already showing signs of adequetely replacing Grid power. As demand and need rises, production improves and increases, economy 'acts on a scale' and the price comes down. I hate the idea that people still see Nuclear power as 'clean', when it is about the dirtiest power there is. If you want to make sure your lights stay on you'd ideally get your own power source in your home.

fair point, well made. But you must not forget that for every David Beckham there's a Jimmy Bullard and for every Michael Owen there's an Ian Wright...

I have written to Gordon Brown and explained that our club has been badly mis-managed by a self-serving board working under, variously, lax, non-existant or shadowy regulation over the last few years. Our share price has plummeted and we are looking at many years in the doldrums unless we can find a massive cash injection. I expect a couple of weeks of dithering before a rescue plan worth several billion pounds of tax payers money is put together to save Saints, Ipswich Town and Brentford. I expect Alistair Darling (or ali.darling@number10.gov.uk - as it says on his brass plaque) to thunder out: "These teams can not be allowed to go under, the government will do all it can to prevent a football recession at these historic clubs".

Saga still has the number four shirt I guess?

If you are training it up, this is most certainly the best pub for a pre-match pint, three guineas is a proper olde worlde pub with music to watch girls go by (reading station is good for this, if nothing else:smt118). If you are driving however, I could recommend parking the other side of the motorway in Three Mile Cross, a couple of very neat little pubs (good local ale and banter) and a twenty minute walk to the ground. DO NOT be tempted to go into Whitley (across the business park from the stadium). Even most Reading fans don't dare drink in those pubs...

lovin this! I'm not sure what's better; three points or a week on this forum with no Alpine or Delldays?! (sorry lads, but you know what I mean!)

4mins added time.... ....what was it sir alex said - squeaky bum time?!

Skacel signs...

that was my muffin money Surman wasted there.

should have let McG take it ;-)

bolox

958 Saints Fans - although Will Cope says alot of 'em would have been there on Tuesday night as well. At least they weren't at Rotherham. Brilliant. I love Will Cope. Actually I don't; clearly I think he is ****e, but he provides a good 'boo-boy' on match days.

Will Cope on his usual top form again then.

Just got back from playing footy myself - blimey, two goals to the good? come on saints. I have a crafty bet for Saints to win either 3-1 or 3-0... ...another goal for Saints and I'm buying the Muffins tonight ;-)

******** to all this. Have none of you ever heard of Positive Thinking? Bhudda, Brahma, The Dali Lama? Karma, Bad brains and PMA? Come on fellas, there is a while to go yet. Lets not become a joke in football, like them Geordie Boo Boys. Thick n Thin lads, thick n thin!

Interesting how similar this is to our current club crest. Both have the shield in spilt in red and white haves (or party per fess argent and gules, if you will!) with the Mayflower heavily featured. And both have a golden 'badge' (fortress/justice or halo) above a red and white banner. I s'pose we could wear red and white feathers instead of scarfs?! Might catch on...

like the badge and the idea. I'd prefer one of the later kits - with red and white quaters tho. I love that historical kits site - some brilliant ones in there. particular favs are brentford, everton, watford, york city and bolton (1884 kit - king o' the mountains!). worth a look!

Quite Right. Ironing is always a pressing matter. Stasis innit? Lets see how the next few league games go, a few more points and people will be back at SMS and back on TSF (or whatever it's called now TSW? SWF?) too.

And now a sensible reply: The shananigans at West Ham show the traditional club manager to be on the way out true - Fridgeirsson "friend of the owner" - (odd job title) Said: "About a year ago, we began to feel we were vulnerable in having a structure with one manager who runs all football matters," So there you go. And with Keegan gone, well - another one bites the dust (I should image he'll be straight back to Glasgow and donning his soccer circus ringmasters shell-suit pretty sharpish).

Harry Redknapp Cucks Sock.

Arsenal? Relegated? You think?:wink: Seriously I agree to a large extent. But those teams with a well established sugar-daddy (or stoopidly high financial turnover) will have the option of splitting off to the fabled euro super league. This will be the end of the Football League as we know it. At either ends of the football league there is a financial disparity that is threatened to cripple the game. Teams dropping out of Div2 into the conference have the opposite problem to teams trying to get into the Prem. Conference teams are often better structured with no history of debt compared to teams - like Torquay to site a recent example - who have been struggling for years. As a result the better funded ex-conference teams have a greater chance of survival, possibly even success, in Div2 just like the at-least-one-year-of-sky-cash-plus-parachute-payment teams dropping down into the CCC have an (financially weighted) advantage of going straight back up. Whilst I appluad a league structure that allows smaller/newer clubs to enter the football league, having the top lopped off and a disprotionate number of (IMHO) under-supported teams (sorry Rusden et al) replacing large town and city teams in t e Football League is simply not good for the game, for clubs, for fans or even for the neutral spectator. Homers mythical IThaKa

Well, based on his style of football, I wouldn't be surprised if West Ham come in for JP! Curbs was doing alright at WHU (injuries and lack of options in the transfer market not withstanding), but Hammers fans always want to play passing flowing football. Which is wot we does, innit!? Seriouisly, if we are worried about any of our young talent going in January, we should also be worried at the very impressive start (performance wise) that JP has made. If/when the result start reflecting performances it'll be noticed - other clubs watch managers as much as players these days.

The best thing about this little is how much more life-like and well-proportioned it is compared the original Ted Bates statue. Nice deepest-darkest-new-forest beard too, aargh.