angelman

I'm in 2 minds about vD. On the one hand, his tantrum has got the desired result with me. I don't actually want him to play for us again, unless there is some major contrition. Sack cloth and self flagellation. He has been a complete and utter ****. On the other hand I totally support the club's stance. I am interested though in if LFC offered enough, would people be happy for him to go there? As time passes and the deadline approaches, that figure for me starts with a 9! I guess mid-80s might be OK, but anything with a 7 would be disappointing

CPFC not too keen on the prospect of Fonte coming back to them https://www.holmesdale.net/page.php?id=106&tid=168195&page=2 Shouldn't have listened to his agent. Mendes wasn't/isn't it? I'm sure the agent got well paid for the WHU move, but then I guess after football, they don't get paid when their clients take up coaching roles. Wasn't that the idea for Fonte before he burned his bridges at SFC?

Roger, knowledge or conjecture? With the press being briefed by LFC so comprehensively, anyone might be forgiven for thinking that he is off. They are almost as bad as WHU and that idiot of a son of one of the chairmen. No actually, he is just an idiot. Liverpool are much more manipulative of their army of sycophantic reporters.

I'm so ****ing bored with everything Liverpool.

Aye, ta. Still doesn't excuse unprofessional attitude and not playing.

Ox is quite versatile and can play in many positions.

He has been hugely unprofessional. He will miss at least 10% of the league wherever he ends up. He should be playing and not being acting a self entitled ****.

Funny that Jansen has got the axe.

Ziyech - who he? Never heard of him.

You should post on here without the expectation of any gratitude. Me, I read these things, and because I am naive and cannot understand why anyone on an anonymous forum would bother to make things up, I go with it. After all what pleasure would someone derive from bigging up a nom de plume? Anyway, I really do want to believe the anyone but Liverpool. I find the stance that Liverpool have taken to be very strange. They are almost forcing us to make sure that it is anyone but them, which as they want him, is a little ****ing bizarre.

Is it? I know he is young but ....

Agree. I fractured my wrist and carried on using it for months. Ended up in a cast for 3 months and then having a general and a pin put in and more months recuperating. But similarly, while I don't want to believe Duckie and that he was possibly capable of playing the last 3 or 4 games, I can well imagine that there is something in it. After all, I come back to the ****ing appalling no show at the end of season do.

Cos he wasn't regressing quickly enough??

I am quite enjoying the Daily Express and its daily wheeling out of some ex-pro. Maybe we should have a sweep-stake as to which ex-pro advocating a move to Liverpool they trot out next!! Had some seriously bizarre ones. Anyway, today, we have John Aldridge being wheeled out again. It is interesting that they aren't accepting comments on that article. Can't imagine why!! http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/845598/Liverpool-transfer-news-Virgil-van-Dijk-Southampton-John-Aldridge Their other story today is Arsenal about to sign him for £50m. Still, there is time for a few more stories to be trotted out. There's usually more than 1 or 2 a day. I think the most I saw in one day was 6.

I would imagine his stance was like that from before May. Who knows what the injury was and when he had recovered from it? Not turning up to the end of season player's do tells me all that I need know.

I think "hated" is a tad strong isn't it? I don't hate any player who plays for Saints. I didn't hate Danny Fox, yet he wasn't up to it and certainly not in the same league as Tadic.

It's OK in principle, but would Ox want to come back here?

Question - would you prefer that Ralph says he is for sale?

The papers seem to have run out of the usual stories so have started on vD & Arsenal now.

I think people under rate Yoshida too much.

I would be disappointed if Les/Ralph came out and said that he was for sale as that would weaken our position. We all know that, so that is why they say he is not for sale. If they do end up selling after having said he isn't, then that to me is just part of making sure we don't weaken our hand any more than the player and his agent are trying their hardest to do. Personally, I do not envisage seeing him in a Saints shirt again.

This is the area that is holding back the team. GK seems nailed on for FF whether people like it or not. The back line with Hoedt's addition seems sorted. DM is as well. Front men has the options with Gabbi presumably being 1st choice. So it is the wing/AM that is the problem. I think that we all agree that we are missing that creative spark. TBH we never really replaced Lallana who used to roam all over the place and was pretty creative. He wasn't the quickest either. So from the players who we have available, I think that Boufal is probably the most likely to replicate that, to be able to give that bit of creativity. So I would stick with Redmond - Boufal - Long playing behind Gabb, although Long isn't really a winger and his crossing isn't really good enough. Tadic did start off brilliantly when he came to us, but he seems to have regressed since Koeman left. Maybe people are right when they say that is due to Mané and Pellè leaving.

I don't think both worked very well, so cannot see this going forward as an option. They both slow things down too much. Tadic, I like him, in the way that I like all players who play for us. I like others more, and think that he thinks that he is better than he is. So I would prefer to go with Boufal and play him in the middle to be the creative part of the team. That then leads to the problem of right wing. You would have Redmond on the left, Boufal in the middle (really do think that that is a better option than JWP) and who on the right - Long?

Agree McCarthy could have played. Maybe with only one U23 game under his belt he wasn't deemed ready.

Ah the twitter/instagram messages. Pathetic. Frankly vD and his agent are behaving like complete knobs. I'm sure that they'll both be very happy in the end.