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Officially it’s called COVID-19 https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/technical-guidance/naming-the-coronavirus-disease-(covid-2019)-and-the-virus-that-causes-it#:~:text=ICTV%20announced%20“severe%20acute,on%2011%20February%202020.

It’s not ‘highly infectious’ else everybody would have caught it by now. Infection depends upon prolonged exposure. Fleeting contact and small dosage is not sufficient.

The point is that home is not the safest place. Obviously individual circumstances vary but if there are several of you living there and somebody, maybe a key worker, brings the virus into the household then the close proximity and prolonged exposure will encourage its spread. Merely ‘staying at home’ is not the best approach.

The UK government won’t use private labs.

I’m with you all the way, Ducky.

It would not have add a lot of difference, not whilst we were concentrating infectees in hospitals and then releasing them early into care homes. Plus letting over 10 million enter the country from abroad without restrictions.

I never said it was a proof. But if one person goes out and touches a door handle and catches it that would be very unfortunate. But two thirds of those hospitalised? There’s something going on here that’s worthy of further investigation.

??? Well here’s a thing. In New York two thirds of new hospitalisations are of people who stayed at home. (From about 1:00 in) https://video.foxnews.com/v/6154826983001#sp=show-clips

Yes, there are some small groups but it’s a common trick to use a telephoto lens and show a foreshortened image, one of the things that really annoys me.the photo you show is similar. There is actually a wide spacing between the subjects. Whatever, these places and situations are not where the virus is being spread. That honour belongs to hospitals and care homes and indoor places with poor ventilation where people spend long times together.

They are widely spaced in the open air. Probably the safest place in the country.

If you tell people that in a couple of days time there will be a lockdown they’re going to make the most of their last couple of days of freedom. Some will go to a pub where they might not otherwise have bothered.

This article is easy to read and seems plausible. It concerns the mechanisms by which you catch the disease. https://erinbromage.wixsite.com/covid19/post/the-risks-know-them-avoid-them?fbclid=IwAR3Z_mKJoV9JxQK4SzUWNTB-IIEvtxu9bcOmmsm4g0ClaBEOFw92yGGCej4

If you use that argument then you’d wrap yourself in cotton wool and never do anything.

If you use that argument the. You’d wrap yourself in cotton wool and never do anything.

Have you ever seen both of them in the same room at the same time?

Then you need to broaden your understanding.

I’m saying that it can’t be proved because we cannot try the alternative approach. As things stand we are higher than other countries.

This is the kind of thinking that led to this flawed model. The results were widely different when other institutions tried to replicate the outcomes of the model. They were even different with different sized data arrays and between single and multi threads. This indicates buggy software and should at least have raised some warning flags both figuratively and literally.

Or maybe they would have been lower without the lockdown which is concentrating the virus into hotspots such as hospitals and care homes?

The code for his model has been released. There’s a scathing review of it here: https://lockdownsceptics.org/code-review-of-fergusons-model/ “Due to bugs, the code can produce very different results given identical inputs. They routinely act as if this is unimportant.“ Instead, the Government is dominated by academics who apparently felt unable to question anything done by a fellow professor. Meanwhile, average citizens like myself are told we should never question “expertise”.

Actually it's the converse. Cancer sufferers are not being treated and the same applies to the victimes of heart attacks and trokes. The reservoirs of infection at the moment are hospitals and care homes.

What is 'the economy' if it is not the lives of humans?

Magic formula? How about a double season? Join this one and the next together so that each team plays another four times, twice at home and twice away. I really haven’t thought this ought so please be prepared to shoot me down

Oi! People with debt and floppy willies need help too

The roads are almost empty and there is no rush hour. Around here I would say that car travel is under 30% of normal.