Whitey Grandad

Always great fun. Not the best footballer but always seemed to play with a smile on his face.

Tu quoque

Europa League?

Thanks for that, I'm out of the country at the moment so much appreciated. Very similar to his goal at the Emirates. Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk

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Fraser was hauled backwards by Bertrand, different to Long's case. If it was stonewall then why did one of our best referees have a very clear view of it and decide it wasn't?

There are a number of factors to be considered. Time to react is one of them. If there were always penalties for such examples then players would spend the whole game trying to kick the ball at the defenders' hands.

'Accidental' and yet a penalty?

They all go on residential courses where incidents such as this are examined in an attempt to get a modicum of consistency. Handball is one such case and the interpretation can change from season to season. That incident last night was too close to the kicker and his hand was moving in that direction before the ball was kicked so it was not an unnatural movement. Consider this, if Roger East had been the video ref would he have overruled the on pitch decision and given a penalty?

'Getting hacked down' is very extreme. There's no video evidence that he was actually touched, certainly not enough to bring him down, and not enough for any video ref to give a ruling. This was examined from several views on Sky.

That always worries me. Anybody who tried that at Riverside Park would end up being kneecapped by the flints just under the surface.

As I saw it his hand was moving before the ball was kicked up at it. There may be one or two referees who would have given it but in general I think most would have turned it down. Long's incident was a long way away from me. My neighbour was adamant that the defender's thigh had caught Long's but how he could have seen that I don't know. I'd have liked to have seen a replay of it. Still, the ref didn't give that nor he alleged foul on Zaha. In both cases I felt that that attacker was trying to initiate a foul.

There was quite a discussion between the referee and his assistant so his flag wasn't just taken at face value. It would enhance understanding if the officials could explain their decision making after the game.

Far too close to give it. Go and learn the Laws of the Game and then take a course in refereeing. No video referee would have overturned that decision.

Not handball. Far too close to give.

Yes, poor decision from the assistant.

That wasn't handball and no video ref would have ever overruled the on pitch decision.

I have played several hundred games and refereed about half that number. You?

No clean sheets since he joined.

Yeah but he would have been injured in September But I agree, management is more than one man.

Not enough goals, especially at home.

Highest number of crosses in the League? https://www.premierleague.com/stats/top/clubs/total_cross?se=54

And wouldn't Spain have to come to our defence?

Fourteen goals? It feels like a lot less.