Whitey Grandad

Well said.

Phew, can I breathe again? Well done Saints, now the real planning can begin. The team that starts next season will look a lot different from the one that started this. The end of season has been a bit of a dreary dribble but a win next Sunday will perk everybody up and we can enjoy the summer with a quiet satisfaction. When do the tickets go on sale? When are the fixtures released?

Good grief, how far out do you have to be to score zero?

Isn't it because of the Champions League final this year?

They should have chosen better parents

It's a very common mistake.

There's also Norwich and Newcastle to consider.

Nothing 'clear' about it. That angle was deceptive.

Thanks, now I've got two things to worry about

13481 points. My first guess was 37km, the second 11km and then I started getting the wrong countries, Spain instead of Brazil, Norway instead of Finland, Australia instead of USA. Good little program this, well found!

The Finance Act 2008 seems to have changed the term 'public road' to 'public place'. The question is whether the public have free unhindered access to the land. From: http://www.astra-mk2.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-34275.html 2 schools of thought here. 1 - its a public place as the public has "free access" into the land without fences, lockable gates etc 2 - According to http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/OwningAVehicle/UntaxedVehicle/DG_069727 "A public road is a road maintained at the public expense, including grass verges and ground adjoining the road. " However, the legal statute is at http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2008/9/schedule/45 - Finance Act 2008 Essentially it says that if the public has access then its not private. However (and I quote) "This Schedule does not apply to— (a)any place which is within the curtilage of, or in the vicinity of, a dwelling-house, mobile home or houseboat and which is normally enjoyed with it, or (b)any place which is within the curtilage of, or in the vicinity of, a building consisting entirely (apart from common parts) of two or more dwellings and which is normally enjoyed only by the occupiers of one or more of those dwellings.” So they cant come onto your land / driveway to clamp (under a) and they cant clamp in the carpark of a block of flats (under b) but in your case, they probably can clamp as its publically accessable and isnt covered by a or b above. You might be covered under 2 (b)

I must admit that the Wigan players looked morally shattered on Tuesday night. It would take a lot to motivate them for next Tuesday.

Of course. I must have lost the plot somewhere along the way.

It could be two defeats totalling 13 goals.

He was there for the West brom game. Unless some other impersonator got my quid.

He He! That's a great idea, double or quits on the length of your sentence?

If only Nigel had waited a couple of months...

Sometimes words fail me.

How about a joker that you can play once a season before a game, doubles the points for that match?

Nah, you stop first

But if QPR had made 37 some other clubs would have had to have fewer points than they have now.

Weren't there chants of 'have you got another kit?' As they trudged off?

Hasn't he done this before?

Wigan could beat Villa 1-0 and go above us, we could lose 18-0 and Villa go above us on goal difference. I don't mean to be a pedant, it's just that I'm the sort of person who doesn't relax until we're 4-0 up and 4 minutes into stoppage time.

Wouldn't we be level with Villa? Effectively safe barring a ridiculous thrashing. Even I might relax.