Whitey Grandad

Just as we had hoped. Well done Mike, and all those who made it possible.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law

20 fluid ounces. HTH

Would you prefer 'PI number'? I have seen a reference to Human HIV virus.

Well I said it was 'open to debate'. That there is a deficit is not disputed.

The real scum are those who steal the charity boxes. The other annoyance is when you try to put money in the box and it is crammed full.

LGPS, actually. Your post arrived just before mine. USS deficit £17bn in March 2010?

That would be because they are older?

At the moment it is in deficit but with a positive cash flow, which comes, of course, from public taxation. It is the only one of the main public sector pension schemes which is funded in any way. There are now more civil servants on pensions than there are working and the number of retired teachers rose from 445,000 in 2004 to 567,000 in 2010 whilst the number of teachers paying in has remained steady at about 600,000. The teachers' scheme is unfunded so present contributions are paying the pensions of those already retired so, in effect, if the teachers increase their current contributions it will be a pay cut whose savings will help to pay for those currently retired. http://www.publicfinance.co.uk/news/2010/12/latest-lgps-deficit-forecast-challenged/

Interesting point. The scheme is funded by the employees and employers and all that money comes from??? Apparently there is a deficit but the amount is open to debate. http://boards.fool.co.uk/lgps-12207073.aspx

Don't forget the charges when you pay in the cash, can be 2.5%.

Ooh, you remembered! How nice of you.

But you'll pay the tax when you take your pension.

Quite correct. 3 times a single income or 3.5 times a joint income.

What pensions would they be? Am I missing something somewhere?

Because you might be well out of the country for that period.

Take your pick: http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/news/article-1611158/25-of-council-tax-spent-on-pensions.html http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1508474/26pc-of-council-tax-goes-on-public-pensions.html http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-23491631-how-a-quarter-of-council-tax-goes-towards-town-hall-workers-pensions.do http://www.taxpayersalliance.com/waste/2011/05/rising-cost-council-pensions-eating-local-government-budgets.html All from a couple of years ago.

61 and 50/52ths. Does that make me the oldest fart so far?

Should that have been 'several million-pound' players, or 'several-million pound' players? I don't think we have either to be honest. I fear that next season is going to be a rude awakening. There are many established teams who look stronger than us.

A third of Council Tax goes to pay their pensions (at the moment).

That ceased to be the case a long, long time ago.

And there we can agree. Whoever is in charge of the ticketing policy really doesn't have a clue.

Then why charge extra on the day? The last few thousand seats in the stadium will usually be the less-committed supporters.

Most are cheaper, some by a large margin, and there are quite a few Premiership clubs that are cheaper (for a season of 19 games instead of 23)

Clueless amateurs.