Sheaf Saint

What if it is actually Martin O'Neill's house he is renting? 🤔

They love to play up on identity politics when it suits them. In a GE campaign, the leaders of both main parties will dress it up as a simple, US presidential style binary choice between me or him/her, as exemplified by David Cameron's infamous "chaos with Ed Miliband" tweet. Then when situations like this arise, they fall back on the old "ah but you weren't technically voting for a PM" argument.

True, but wasn't it also a really harsh decision that didn't take the pitch conditions into account? I was out at a gig that night and have never brought myself to watch the replays, so I can only go by what I've read.

I don't really think it's fair to include Bertrand either. It was still 0-0 when he got sent off wasn't it?

So women don't have the strength and speed to compete with even academy level men. That has never been in question and it's the reason why there is a separate women's game. Instead of constantly comparing it to the men's game, why don't you at least try and acknowledge it for its own merits? I often watch the BTCC when it's on TV because it often has some really close, entertaining racing. I don't dismiss it just because they wouldn't be able to compete in a F1 race. That would be absurd. Just because women lack the physicality of men, it doesn't mean they can't develop good technical ability and play a good tactical game. There has been plenty of that on show in the current Euros, and some very entertaining games and great goals so far. Nobody's forcing you to watch or read the media coverage. You are free to ignore the tournament completely if you wish. But if you're not going to watch the games then maybe, you know, stop relentlessly commenting on it? Just a thought.

Yes, I'm sure they put in 110% effort in a hugely competitive game and were completely embarrassed by a group of kids. Or perhaps not... https://www.90min.com/posts/4833646-some-people-think-it-s-funny-that-the-usa-women-s-national-team-were-apparently-beaten-by-u15-boys "This 'game'....has given overtly sexist knuckle draggers all the ammunition they think they need to lay into women's football".

Apologies, it wasn't aimed specifically at you.

He's not correct. Claiming "The Dog and Duck would beat any chick team week in week out" is not "the reality". It might have been a number of years ago but it certainly isn't anymore. Look I get that it won't have universal appeal. There are clearly a handful of posters who feel it isn't for them and don't want to watch it, and that's fine. But, mods, please could you split the thread so those of us who are actually enjoying this tournament can discuss it like grownups without certain people relentlessly trying to piss all over that enjoyment?

It was a very enjoyable game played at a really good standard. If you took your blinkers off you'd see that for yourself. But no. With every further post you make on this thread, you make yourself look more and more like a massive prick.

This Netherlands v Portugal match is gripping. Both teams have players with genuine quality. Neds looked like they would run away with it early on but Portugal got back to 2-2 with a lovely move and finish, and the Dutch have taken the lead again with an outstanding goal. I've watched plenty of PL games far less entertaining than this.

Are you sure it didn't mean July 2022, rather than 22nd July?

I've just got back from watching Sweden v Switzerland at Bramall Lane with my daughter, and I thoroughly enjoyed it. First half was a bit cagey with very few real chances, but it really opened up in the second half and was a decent game in the end. Sweden were deserving winners but Switzerland, despite being much lower ranked (and apparently having half the squad come down with a stomach bug only days ago), gave them a good game and were no mugs. The atmosphere was very much family orientated, so I can see why it wouldn't appeal to our resident football 'lads', but the standard on the pitch was decent. Anyone claiming it's no better than Sunday league is talking utter bollocks.

Can't imagine why.

Yeah I agree. Seems an obvious move. Fans on their forum seem happy with the suggestion because even a decidedly average player would drastically improve their awful midfield.

The standard has improved massively in the last few years. The quality, particularly the goalkeeping, is clearly superior to when I watched the last WC. But Dman wouldn't know this because he's only watched 30 mins of this tournament and that's obviously enough to decide that the overall standard is terrible. I actually like the fact that the women's game is played at a slower pace than the PL, as it gives flair players more time and space to show off their talent. It's true that, in general, women will not be able to hit a ball with as much power as men can, but you still get to see some great goals in these international games, so I find it enjoyable. If other people don't, that's fine. I just wish some of them would stop 'ramming it down our throats' (😉) how much they dislike it.

Nobody is ramming anything down your throat, and that example is just an over-excited commentator talking shite. It's not as if that has never happened im the mens game is it. If you don't like the amount of coverage the media are giving it, you are free to ignore it. Personally I'm not the slightest bit interested in Wimbledon, but you won't find me going on Tennis forums and repeatedly posting about how uninterested I am and how it's being rammed down my throat by the BBC.

Fuck me these campaign launches today are nauseating. Sunak telling us we need to reduce the tax burden when he was the chancellor that created it in the first place. Dorries claiming Liz Truss is a stronger Brexiter than her or JRM, whereas she actually supported the remain campaign and only flipped when she realised it would land her a cabinet post. And those two are the front-runners apparently. Actually, the more I think about it, I'd be happy if it was Truss. Starmer would rip her to pieces at the dispatch box.

Oliver Bierhoff

But pretty much all players do that anyway though. It's generally why most transfer business takes place towards the end of a window. Players will have received various offers and their agents will advise them to hold off and wait to see if a better offer crops up before signing for anyone. Using that as a reason to not sign a potentially really good player would be madness.

Please don't sing that if you're going to the game!

Right, yeah. Because no men's commentator has ever made a massive tit of himself by coming out with a load of exaggerated nonsense has he. It definitely 100% only happens in women's games doesn't it. 🙄