Micky

You're a detective aren't you. Did you work that out all by yourself or did you use your great big looking glass to track down the clues. I'm sorry, but I'm one of the incredibly stupid ones on here. Can you tell me exactly when he will be leaving?

Don't think I ever said that we were losers, ever. Went to the game at the weekend and only saw one team trying to win it. Wasn't at all surprised to see that team lose in the end. Sat with my 14 year old son at the end, he said to me that we have to take the rough with the smooth, made me smile. The past is not holding us back, as you suggest, the present is. To make it simple for you, we need more money, the owners don't have it, we have to make do. Now you can rant on and on about how Kat had been very, very bad and pocketed all the readies again in a minute, but I have been more than happy with the progress and investment since her arrival. I am very glad to have a club, I make no apologies for that (certainly not to you). Loser no, realist absolutely. HTH. Sent from my SM-T580 using Tapatalk

This. This is the reality of our situation. If you've followed the club for any length of time you should be neither surprised or to worried right now. Sent from my SM-T580 using Tapatalk

I think the more Premier managers that get the boot - the easier it becomes to pull the trigger. Problem is, who do you get to take over - you need the right man lined up ready to go. Some of the names mentioned on this thread are just frightening and others pure folly. Unless they have a gem in the bag I would stick for now.

I thought Tadic was ok to be honest. Not only that but I also thought he showed a good attitude with regards to the urgency to score. Early on in the 2nd half he chased a ball that had gone for a throw to them and ran it back to their thrower, also did the same for a goal kick in order to stop the keeper wasting time (again). When he got sub'd he ran straight off to keep the game moving. Maybe small things - but things that show he had a good attitude to the game and knew it was important to keep the tempo high.

I think he's on the half way line - doesn't know whether to cross it or not.

Agree - you could see that he was gutted to lose the header. Those saying that Wesley would've got to it, I'm not so sure, Maya's not been done by much, he is in and around his man, perhaps needed to lean into him more, I don't overly blame him though - fine margins.

This. Too many are punch drunk on a few good years where we probably over achieved. History will tell you that we are probably a mid to lower mid premier league team and whether you like that or not it is true. To break into the upper echelons requires more than just a little investment and is beyond most owners means. Some of the comments with regard to the owners making money are quite disingenuous - why do you think they bought the club. Have they invested - yes they have. Have they improved us since the takeover - yes massively. But they made no secret of the fact that to take the next step is very difficult - if they don't have the funds, fair enough, we suck it up, live within our means. Or we could go bust again of course. I've been to most of the games this season and we haven't been great, but then again, we haven't been really bad either (apart from Watford maybe). At the end of last season I knew that there was no way we were going to improve on our league position and I stand by that now. We are what we are, pretty much an average run of the mill premier team, no more, no less - we will have our ups and downs. Just had 3 years of ups, whose sticking around for the downs, or are we all leaving on 81 minutes, just like Saturday.

Not keen then? Sent from my SM-T580 using Tapatalk

We are having a terrible season as well, I don't think anybody is denying that. Everton however spent big in the summer and were tipped by many for great things. FWIW I'm not that surprised by our own form right now. Sent from my SM-T580 using Tapatalk

This is what should of happened. I was there and I couldn't make out what the announcer said. Having said all of that, remembrance shouldn't need to be explained to people: Remain silent, remember, and pay personal tribute to those who fell. Sent from my SM-T580 using Tapatalk

Great news, that means we could get Mr Pulis when he becomes available. Sent from my SM-T580 using Tapatalk

Not only that, but for all of the perceived limitations in his outfield play, his dead ball delivery is very, very good. Sent from my SM-T580 using Tapatalk

Sorry, what view would that be then? Sent from my SM-T580 using Tapatalk

Thank god you showed up. I was at the game and this is how I saw it as well. I can understand the over reaction because of the end result, but it really wasn't a game we shouldn't have got anything from. Sent from my HTC One M8s using Tapatalk

Claud Puel could be the manager that relegates us this season. Karma...! Sent from my HTC One M8s using Tapatalk

I'm more surprised that Ryan is ready to go back to a side where he will effectively sit on the bench for most of the season. Thought that was the reason he left Chelsea and came to us.

Another player who discovered that the grass is not always greener. Feel for the lad, he was great for us and then it all went Pete Tong. Sent from my SM-T580 using Tapatalk

They can concentrate on their charge up the league now then. Sent from my SM-T580 using Tapatalk

The argument that he has to win something though is also flawed. Roberto Martinez won the FA Cup with a poor Wigan side not so long ago - does that make him one of the best in the world? Most would argue not, but it appears to be the benchmark that lots of posters here are setting for Poch. Oh he also got them relegated in the same season - does that make him a bad manager, or an even better manager because he won a major domestic honour with a crap team? Swings and roundabouts I think.

What's that, fans getting behind a player who is going through a bad patch. That will never catch on.

Pretty much how I understood it as well. Admittedly I was of the opinion that I wanted him to stay at least another season. Sent from my SM-T580 using Tapatalk

Where have I said Les Reed is my hero? Sent from my SM-T580 using Tapatalk

I don't think that we are to far away from this to be honest. Look at the last two managers, one got us to eighth (forget how, he did) and this one currently has us in the top ten, but lots of people want him sacked as well. I'm not sure that some people really understand where we sit in the football pyramid or have realistic expectations about what we should be achieving. But if we keep hounding managers out of the door after ten games I can't see that that is good for the long term stability of the club.

I'm going, but not sure that I am.