Micky

Can't really blame the 'blanket stackers' for this one - while 6 billion quid does sound like a lot of gear to errrr 'loose' - I think you'll find that much of it is simply 'misplaced', 'deployed' or 'signed out'. You could audit the MOD/Armed Forces continually, but at the rate that equipment moves about, you'd be hard pressed to ever account for the whole sheebang...! As most squaddies will tell you, 'it's a big firm', add the Navy and Airforce - and thats a whole lotta stores that you have to account for, 6 bill is nothing.

So we are not only to believe that you have attracted our undevided attention on this thread, but also most of the main board are eating out of your hand as you spoon feed them false snippets? You really are a very sad and deluded individual. You have some compatriots who post here - I might suggest that you take a leaf from their book if you really want to be taken for anything other than a clown and a joke. I note with some interest that your user name is an anagram of 'Cheat or Poor' - somehow both seem quite apt, to both you and your club. I'm off back to the main board to check out some more of your brilliant ITK wind up posts.

Oh to be an SQMS eh......

Are they allowed to do that - how long is the contract, surely your are entitled to the service levels that were agreed at the time of signing the contract until said contract expires. Or was there some cunning gargon in the small print?

40 and 157/12

No signal....????!!!

Can't be assed to do the full 4 pages boys, so is this rumour still hot or rot....?

Ahhhhh, I see you've not quite mastered this 'reasonable force' concept either Derry....!

I am NOT making excuses. If I hear intruders in my house my first thought would be for my children - sorry if that train of thought appears strange to you - to me it is second nature. Now you are suggesting that we invite confrontation by allowing the scumbag to hear us and then 'gambling' that he is going to do a runner. All very well, but again, in the real world it doesn't always pan out like that. I don't want to invite a fight at all, but I maintain that the homeowner has been forced into the situation by the invader - he has the right to defend himself and his family.

Errrr what training ground...?????

I'm not. With the rest, I agree.

In August 1998, Dave Jones signed Scott Marshall for Southampton on a free transfer. Saints thought they had made a transfer coup, but Marshall soon showed why Arsenal let him go, scoring an own goal in his debut against Leeds United in a 3–0 defeat on 8 September 1998, repeating this four days later in a 4–0 defeat at Newcastle United. He never appeared again for Saints and went out on loan. Good ol' Perry, 16 appearances in two years - did manage 2 goals though, not bad for an attacking winger costing £750k...!! I rest my case Your 'onour...!!!

I accept the law. I don't accept that the homeowner should face massive grey areas in which to work when they need to make an interpretation of the law in a split second that may be the difference between being seriously injured or worse. Spouting lines of advice such as 'Phone the police' and 'the burgler is more scared of the homeowner' is hardly great advice from either a lawyer or somebody who works in the CPS. You say that 'the law is 'what it is'', what is that? On many counts, many have said that 'the law is an ass' - perhaps this is one of those counts.

I wasn't necessarily championing you personally, although I admire your change of direction and what you now do. It was more a generalisation of people who perhaps make bad choices and see the error of their ways, but then make a positive contribution to society as a whole. I'm pretty soppy over the old 'bad boy come good' sort of thing.

Refreshing.

So in your case files it says that the poor old burgular was really scared, even more so when confronted. I don't start on that assumption at all. I start on the assumption that: I live in a 4 bedroom house My wife and I occupy 1 bedroom My 2 young children occupy 2 other bedrooms If I hear a burgular come into my house, my first problem is getting to my children before the scumbag does. Highly unlikely that I am going to be able to do that, in the dead of night, without said scumbag hearing. My next problem is getting to a phone, calling 999 and whispering down it in order try to get help. Confrontation in the home is highly likely, therefore so is some sort of violence. And no, I don't start from that assumption. I don't know how many times I (we) have to tell you, we know that it shouldn't end up in death, but occasionally it does. If we go by your assumption(s) that burgulars are scared of the homeowner and that they only want to steal possessions, why did the 4 masked men not go running from the house when they heard the 3 people upstairs moving around and making their way downstairs?

Which goes to show how fundamentally wrong people can be. How many ex drug addicts and alcoholics now work with people to help them fight their addictions, how many ex cons now work with kids in inner city areas teaching them the wrongs of knife and street crime. Quite a few Dune. Very few people are whiter than white, most have wronged in their life in some way, shape or form - but that doesn't consign them to the 'human scrap heap'. If people get a second chance in life and grasp it, then well done to them, especially if it involves helping others along the way. No skeletons in your closet?

Notable...???

Tend to agree, skimmed through the transfer rumour 'mega thread' myself but it's just too difficult to keep tabs on. Had to laugh when we started on about Owen though - what was all that about. Personally would prefer a seperate forum where each player could be discussed individually - would be easier to sort the trash that way.

Without wishing to sound like a ***t, if they were going to die like that, then the quicker the better as far as I am conerned.

What Chez sez (see what I dun there...!). Bridgey was class for us and bloody consistent too. Watched him a couple of times playing for WHU at the end of last season and he did look rusty initially, but saw another game not long after and he put in a MoM performance. Get him somewhere where he can play regular football and he'll prove himself again.

I have to say Dune, much as it fvkin' pains me, on this, with you I concur.

I'd rather not, I'd really rather not. I wouldn't have a clue where to start to look and for what it's worth I probably agree that most burglaries do not end up in violence. But that fact remains that some do. And the fact remains that those that do are solely the responsibility of the burgler - nobody asks to have their home burgled. Therfore when a burgler is confronted they should expect the worst, the very worst - that is the risk they run, that is the nature of their profession. Because you asked me to do some homework, perhaps you'd like to do the same: "....most are more scared than the people they are robbbing." Go on, where on earth did you get that from, where in your CPS department do you have that stat????? I'm really beginning to dispair for the honest hardworking man in the street. Please don't shout at the burgler - you'll scare him. I'm just.... speachle.......

As far as I can glean, once he has refused to return your possessions, refused to leave your property and now has a knife against your throat - it it then time to phone the police.

What utter rubish.