Greedyfly

He came on against Liverpool and finished off the game with direct running and a good assist, he started against Everton (I think) and provided an assist and was very good until subbed off. We can all site various situations. Sub appearances where he gets 10 mins here, 15 mins there don't do anything. The Newcastle game was dreadful from all involved so not getting the ball out wide to our young prospect is hardly his fault. The facts are his assist record vs games played (given total minutes) is what you'd expect from a top half prem winger. 2 assists 4 games.

We're already deficient in that area. We are now relying on the 'craft' of Redmond (despite his ok start) and Moi being a fantastic bargain. We have no pace and we are painfully pedestrian, yet we didn't address this in the summer.

I mean he hasn't really has he? He's played a total of 4 full games in 2 seasons and in those 4 and a bit games he has two assists. One which put us in the final of the League Cup and one on his debut, so he's basically doing the job of an average winger. Don't get me wrong, I think a loan was actually a good option for him if Hughes isn't going to play him, but he's not had the opportunity either those assists should have afforded him especially when you consider our other wingers have hardly stepped up in the last two years.

When exactly? One 10 goal season. He's bog average and not a patch on Austin. Also he doesn't hold the ball up well either.

Ings has a far better strike rate than Welbeck. Why are people so ****ing excited by Welbeck. He's ****.

Armstrong is indeed a fresher version of Davis and I think Tadic has been adequately replaced but Long and Redmond are never the answer. Redmond isn't actually that fast as has been discussed before and Long is not a chance creating midfielder. He's a goal shy striker. We needed to replaced Mane and we haven't. It's a big problem when teams just sit in as we have no option other than to pass it around ad nauseum until there's no other route than to go backwards.

Why do you think that? Genuine question because although both seem good acquisitions, neither strikes me as a pace merchant.

We are so so pedestrian in midfield and this is my biggest concern and the one we've failed to address. Also the clamour for Welbeck is baffling. He's so poor; couldn't score for **** for two of the biggest teams in English football yet he'd somehow be the savour here. Ok then. Not a good window for me and another relegation battle coming up.

Definitely the same one as me

Mmmmmm this is awkward.

To be fair, he ****ing should have the amount of money he bled on transfers.

That is no reason to purchase him though lol. I am happy to join for half that.

You make it sound like there is literally no one else in the world in management. As if Hughes was literally the last man on earth. He wasn't.

Have you? Conceding 3 a game every game in the prem before tonight has been impressive? He's ****ing toilet and shouldn't have been given the job in the first place.

Can't be true, he'd improve the top 6 don't ya know

Where's SKD to tell us how good Lemina is. Laughable

Is that meant as a joke or some more crazy delusions of grandeur?

Can just about stomach this as it's an end of season appointment only. Hope he gets us organised but it's a nothing appointment born out of desperation rather than a thorough process (a luxury we couldn't afford). Brand of football is grim and Stoke are in fact below us. Still if he keeps us up... We are **** and beggars clearly couldn't be choosers

Included the cup assist but not the league, so fair enough. 2 assists. And I agree in part, the whole team is a shambles and Carrillo is one part of that but then Austin pretty much had the same system and makes a mockery of the those excuses because a) he is influencing the game because he's scoring, and b) he's scoring, which is what we need. Essentially, he's not been very good and anyone who looked at the signing a bit before we actually got him could see he was going to be a pal of Pellegrino's and nothing more. Certainly not a solution to our ever worsening plight. Bottom line, system or not, he's been average, he is average and he's only ever going to be average. And that's being polite.

Here's some verifiable numbers for you then: At 6.2 he's won less than 36% of all headers, he's had exactly 11 shots on target and missed half of them. Nothing sticks to him so he's an absolute shambles of a target man which means we have both no defensive out or an attacking out. He has one assist (which I still think was a bloody fluke because he just ballooned it up in the air and it was more to do with Tadic than Carrillo) and crucially, he's scored **** all. He's absolutely bang average and at 20mil he's actually ****ing awful. He's literally no better than Long (in fact worse over the course of his career and that's in arguable worse leagues) but the difference is we now have a 20mil deficit that could have gone on literally anyone else to do the same ****ty job. He's toilet. I agree he's hardly helped out by out incredibly ****e support structure, and he's by no means at fault for our predicament (as someone said above he hasn't caused it, but neither is he the solution) but don't go around pretending he's actually ok as a result because he isn't. Sorry, forgot this absolute gem; he hasn't scored a goal with his feet in 2 years.

That's numberwang

Ok so we're out of the 'give him time' phase are we lol

Lemina has looked like the sort of player that could play for a top 6 side...lolz. WHere's SKD?

Now what you ****ing useless negative clown?

At what? I watched a different game to you. How many chances did he create, assists, goal attempts? Another headless chicken performance it was.