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Surely the story of how we signed a player for a club record fee, scored a wonder goal then immediately got loaned out after attacking his team mate and kicking a Newcastle coach in the b*llocks will cause a few nostatlgic giggles?

Sure. IF you can PM me your credit card or bank account details i'll sort them out for you.

So why didnt he then? If he'd lasted 80 minutes what difference was another 10 going to make?

:lol: you really are a grade A plank aren't you pal.

The club hasn't been run for the fans for a long time. FF seems to be conveniently forgetting Lowe closing the curtains to the fans protesting outside, the appointment of Woodward, the appointment of Stuart gray, Wigley and Sturrock, the sacking of Pearson, the entire Northam standing singing 'spend some f*cking money' in the first few days at SMS. If the Liebherrs didn't give a toss about us then Cortese would still be here running riot. The fact that they put a stop to it and what with the summer rumours suggests they've been trying to address issues for some time. Football isn't run for fans anymore it's a multi million business but all things conferred we've done pretty well having the liebhers own us.

It does make me laugh how the people who moan about this place, claim it's not worth the money and people don't have lives are the ones who seem to take it all so very seriously and are rather upset that it's not how they want it to be. There has been a couple of foul mouthed rants on here today and all because the forum doesn't suit them.

TSW existed before the 2003 cup final

Post FA Cup final 2003 then. We can see when you became a fan.

I remember a halycon time for this forum. Back in it's glory days when Steve Grant was nothing more than a mod, before the days of infraction points and subscriptions. That was the glory time for this forum. We used to have seating plans for away games so everyone knew where each other was sitting, every home game and so away games the build up thread title was "Who's got a ticket for *insert clubs name* game?" with exictable post after excitable post talking about how much they were looking forward to it. Great posters who dont bother any more and you can see why like Essruu, JB, Alfreds Girl, Partrick Bateman, Paul Allen, Aids Victim, saintpaulkiptanui. It wasn't without it's trolls, SRS being the big name on that score but the good posters who dont bother any more and you can see why used to deal with him and knock him down with the aplomb of sachin tendulkar picking off a loose spin delivery and despatching it over square leg and the boundry into the celebrating crowds massed in the stands. We had the era of the ITKer, with the nudge, nudge "i cant say too much but........" posts. It also wasn't without it's controversy either, Crouchie and his threats to sue and of course Amygate. Oh yes, that was the golden period of saintsweb. We were like a family then and it was a much better place to be, before saintsweb became this corporate machine that didn't give a toss about the posters and were only interested in racking up posts counts and subscritptions. What this forum has become is another sad inditement of modern football i'm afraid.

I've been saying for months that players and fans want to win things and that we should try to win the cups. A few months back i was told that this was ridiculous, shouted down and we need to concentrate on the league, we played a weakened team at the league cup game at Sunderland and this was a good thing otherwise it would detract from our push for the champions league. It was champions league or nothing. Now reality has hit home and the fact of the matter is, like some "trolls" said back in october, we aren't going to make the champions league and we will finish midtable then suddenly it's outrageous and disgusting that the club haven't taken the cups seriously. Players and fans want to win thing, they want memorable days out and they want a shot at glory, this is what sport is all about. What it isn't about is settling for midtable at the cost of all else. To those that are happy we went out of the cups meekly i'll ask you this, are we a sports club or a cash cow? In 30 years time do they want to remember the days we played a cup semi final or final at Wembley or do they want to talk about the time we got an extra £2m quid for finishing 7th rather than 12th?

This. That would mean 90% of our fans are complete bellends who talk a load of sh*t.

Except it isn't that straightforward. On paper, yes the team should have had enough about them to at least get a draw. Yet they played with no tempo or aggression. Aside from the goal we actually defended okay, however MPs best attempt to get us back in it was to take off our best player and replace him with an 18 year old who had never played a minute of first team football. This unfathomable, you can bleat in about fatigue but there was only 10 minutes left. It seemed to me to send out a message that if anyone wasn't sure that we don't really care about the cup then there was the final bit of proof. I'm sure you can explain the logic behind it though.

The only teams that can compete with our away support is Manchester United and we haven't won anywhere near as much as them.

Like I said, just you struggling with it then.

What message did that substitution send out to the team and fans? It seems to be only you struggling with this.

Lallana didn't play badly. It just doesn't add up why you would take off your best player and bring a kid on who hasn't played a minute of first team football on when you're trying to stay in the FA cup.

Why take off your most creative player and give a kid a debut when chasing a game?

Just like every other club, when you chase fans dreams you end up like Leeds United.

So you're saying if a manager has an apathetic approach to a game then it won't affect the players?

Hear what? I'm not really sure what you're asking for. Cortese has been gone a month, we've had a statement from Kat, a new CEO appointed for the interim, been quite a few articles on the OS, more so than when Cortese was here, what do you want to hear?

Yeah big difference, refusing to speak to the press, why? Bringing on an 18 year old for his debut and taking off our most creative player when 0-1 down. Is that what he does in league games?

What did you think of Cuba?

MP usually spends a lot of time on the touchline in league games and we've not turned in a performance like that. Coincidence?

Exactly, he wasn't answerable to the fans. He was answerable to the shareholders and the bank manager. What you seem to be saying is a PLC is better than being privately owned.

You are the Che Guevara of mongboard Glasgow.