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It was a lot more than that pal.

I was in Glasgow last night, had no idea and no sign at all what was going on only a couple of hundred yards away. Scary to think that could easily have been the place I was in. Very sad to hear.

Please say this isn't true.

I remember that mate, I was surprised at the time too as he looked happy in the pictures. I did a similar thing with Dean Richards when I revealed that Spuds (PMSL) were going to bid and he wanted to go. Loads of people said this wasn't true, even claiming to have asked him directly and he said he was staying and happy. we all know how that one ended up.

Looks like a bit of fake laugh to me, put on. His laughing much more than anyone so either a bit mental or faking it to appear convincing.

I remember last season West ham, Stoke and Norwich all had runs of winnable fixtures, west ham got the season off to a great start and were sitting pretty after 10 games. Norwich too had a very good run about this time last year when they won a few and went on a good run. Stoke had the best defence in Europe when we played them just before Xmas and were high up th tbable. When they played a few of the better sides again naturally those runs came to an end and they dropped a few places. I recall the shouting from the rooftops that West Ham were only were they were early last season due to their easy fixtures and they were now showing their true form. Norwich and Stoke were ridiculed as being terrible, sliding down the table and serious relegation candidates. I presume if we drop down to midtable after our run of, let's call them more challenging fixtures, the same rational would be used with us?

See I've been name checked 3 times on this thread despite not posting on it or indeed at all on here for 3 days.

So frank or whoever else, having looked into the company car option a little deeper, it seems that the sort of cars I can get give benefit it kind value of around £5.2k and a tax payable @40% of £2110. Am I correct in saying that this means that I would pay £2110 in a tax per year for having a company car?

"Put it this way - why aren't Liverpool, Arsenal, the Manc's, Chelsea, Spurs etc in for him?" They are http://sportsvibe.co.uk/news/football/manchester-united-to-bid-5m-for-scotland-under-21-striker-after-scholes-recommendation-12011/ Now people can claim if we sign him he picked us over Man United, like they did with Clyne.

Good. The team are losing, he's not been playing well. He's only showing that all important quality of PASSION that all players need to have. He probably wants us to get it into mixer a bit earlier rather than fannying about with it. I share his frustration.

You're two short pal.

I suggested him on the summer HCDAJFU thread the last 3 seasons. we had a couple of bids rejected for him when We were in the championship.

Could stick Moran in there to pick up Lambos flicks.

Two pacy widemen there pal, perfect for a 4-4-2.

Yes it has, but you could also argue that the soft, pampered players with their fancy boots and bowling green pitches of today wouldn't survive in the 60s, 70's and 80's. This is why it's virtually impossible to compare era with era so you have to take each player on their own merits and what they did at the time, rather than trying to be clever and say they wouldn't cut it today.

I had a great night downing Whiskey with him about 10 years ago, he's deaf in one ear so with me dribbling and mumbling communication was almost impossible past 10pm. *switches off Dubai Phil mode*

Yes he did. He was a great passer and also scored some cracking goals.

I think people are missing the point as Norway says, Bale wouldn't get into the current team on his Saints prime FFS I'd go for Mark Wright at the back alongside Lovern, the perfect pairing for centre halves Jimmy Case in the midfield instead of Wanyama You'd have to include Le Tissier. This is obviously only players from my lifetime that i've seen, im sure some of our older fans would include Channon, Paine etc but i never saw them play.

ahh right okay, i'm glad you cleared it up, thanks. It just when we were talking about Chelsea being a historically well supported team i didn't realise history stopped when you got to 1980.

Yes you did pal.

I dont want to believe it but seems to be quite a few rumours flying about.

So we now agree that they did get crowds over 30k before the late 90s and they've always been a well supported club?

What part of "they have always been a well supported club" are you struggling with pal? No one said it is the same people, it's you claiming they never got crowds over 30k until recently. Unless of course you're also claiming that the ones that jumped shipped in the 70s when they got relegated and nearly went bust are the same ones that are making up their 40,000 crowds now of course.

Load of crap, you dont know your history pal. For most of their history they've averaged well over 30,000 and in some cases well over 40,000, a few dips here and there notably the 80's as has been mentioned but they've always been a well supported club. They used to get high 30's to low 40's crowds in the 60's and early 70's. The biggest crowd ever for a Chelsea game is over 80k. They dropped off in the late 70s when they got relegated to the old second division but then whose crowds dont, ours went down by 10,00o when we got relegated. They had a period of very low crowds in the 80s but then they started to pick up in the 90's. Stamford Bridge was redeveloped in the 90's, it went from having a running track round the pitch with cars parked behind the goals and a big open terrace miles away from the goal line to the stadium it is now which meant for some seasons in the 90's they'd have had a restricted capacity in that time, which from memory was around 92-95.