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True, good example. Ozil, Cazorla, Padolski, Giroud, Gerveniho, Arteta, Oxlainde-Chamberlain and Per Mertesacker most definitely didn't sign for them in the last 3 seasons for large to massive fees. He trousered the money and tried getting more out Henry Lansbury.

I'm not convinced hooliveld is 4th choice, he's been picked ahead of Yoshida a number of times So just to confirm, they don't need replacing or improving on, all we need to is get more out of them, yes?

Can the be the one to crack the hilarious 'that means we'll lose' gag, please?

Hooliveld, Fox and Yoshida are most definitely squad players. According to shurlock we need to get more out of them, they don't need replacing. So how has getting more out of them gone so far?

Fair point, we've done that well. Now we need to get more out of our squad players like hooliveld, Fox, Gazza, Yoshida. How's that going?

HOw else do you progress if you dont improve th squad with better players then?

Good point. NC has probably learnt from the Forren debacle that you cant sign players with one manager in charge who wont be around to play them! If we dont make any signing then perhaps in suggest there are some truth in the rumours?

Would make a great boxing name that wouldn't it In the red corner, weighing in at 340 pounds, it's our challanger, The Troll from the Tirol, Alpine Saint.

If you dont progress you stand still. Worrying that we aren't looking to improve the squad. Let hope our arrogance doesn't become our undoing.

That was good old Dave in Sweden

Me too would suit our system too.

Pretty much his attitude to all the young players wasn't it? He moaned about people telling him how good the young players were and Never forget the 3-0 win in the cup where they were excellent and he said we were lucky and hasn't played well at all, from his attitude got the impression he'd sent them out to fail in that game to prove a point to Lowe.

In the 80s we produced a few that weren't quite top flight level but played quite a few times made good careers in the game. Mark Whitlock, Mark Blake, Steve Davis were three I remember who were all local boys who came through. Since then we've not really had any that have done much in the first team.

Absolutely, I mean everyone is indignant this can't be true and they'd be right, its in the paper and what so they know? they just make things up. At least now its in the paper that he's not leaving so we know that he 100% won't be, because when its in there its alway the truth.

FACT

I expect she probably did anyway.

When and Where do you hear this?

Oh yeah he wasn't wasn't he, Wallsall, got them relegated and then sacked with them in the drop zone the season after.

What a load of nonsense. There is an obsession with getting black players to be managers and to be honest it's a load of horsesh*t. One look at the England squad for the 1998 world cup show how the ones whinging about football being toxic and anti black manager is boll(cks. I've chosen the 1998 world cup squad because most of the players there have retired now and are at management age. There were 4 black players in that squad. Sol Campbell, Les Ferdinand, Rio Ferdinand and Paul Ince. Of those 4 Paul Ince has managed in the premier league and has failed as a manager. Les Ferdinand is currently a premier league coach at Tottenham, Rio Ferdinand is the only member of the squad still playing. So as a percentage 50% of the black players have gone into management and coaching, both of them have been or are currently in the premier league and one is still playing. Of the 18 white players only Tony Adams, Gareth Southgate and Alan Shearer for a very short time have managed, none with any success. I believe Tim Flowers is a goalkeeping coach somewhere and Gary Neville is a pundit and a coach. So as a percentage only 27% of white players from that England squad have been involved in coaching or management. Why isn't there campaign to get reformed junkie & alcoholic players like Paul Merson into management? Why isn't there a clamour to get crocked ex players like Darren Anderton into management? It's a disgrace there isn't any currently managing in the premier league. Simple fact is there are a lot fewer black players currently of managerial age than there are white players. Therefore you're going to have fewer black managers.

People on here love stats, except when they dont suit them. I wonder what their stats would be in the percentage only included wins against teams with 3 or less English players in the side whose name includes the letter D, S, R, P or T and the club was formed between 1893 and 1901.

It's a huge weekend at the bottom. west Ham go to Cardiff and Fulham host Sunderland, if the home teams both win then West Ham are 6 points adrift, which even at this stage of the season is a mountain to climb. Who is going to go there knowing they are very likely to go down?

And lots of average players on big long contracts with little sell on value. Whoever goes there will be under massive pressure to get them back up Straight away.

If they lose against Cardiff he'll be gone.

To be fair you need a bit of luck to beat them. Can't really criticise him for that.

No its a fair assessment, didn't do much at WBA really and like you say got an underperforming group of players to play together by letting the senior players do what they want. For whatever reason Cortese wanted him though and one of things he has got spot on is managerial appointments so must have something he liked.