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To be fair Pompey are playing some decent stuff and look dangerous from set pieces.

Better than ours?

We didn't finish above Chelsea. Just adding to the discussion, if West Ham finished above us and two of their central midfielders scored against us in a 4-1 win then you could argue that their midfield players are better than ours. I don't think they are by the way, but if they started cliaiming Nolan and Noble were as good as cleverly and Carrick what would people say?

And they dominated us up there in central midfield. Mulumba ran the game and was the best player on the pitch.

So a midfield that dominated ours twice is a match for Man Us, but some on here are arguing ours is better.

Two of them scored 3 of their goals in their 4-1 win against us. Their midfield must be better than ours, right?

So do you think their midfield is better than Man Uniteds or not? What about west Hams? They best us 4-1 and we failed to beat them, they also finished above us. Is their midfield better than Man Uniteds?

You're biased mate, biased against Saints and have an anti saints agenda. how dare you say that Schniderlin isn't the best midfielder in the country and We are amazing. Do you support Saints, do you? You've just seen the words Man United and assumed they are brilliant without looking at the FACTS.

To put this discussion into perspective West brom finished 8th and beat us easily twice with Mulumba bullying Schniderlin up there. What would be the view on here if West Brom fans started proclaiming their midfield was better than Man Us?

Yes, he said 'its arguable saints have more match going fans than Everton' It was an all time great MLG quote. Either way match going or not we don't have more fans than Everton .

You clearly haven't read the thread Adrian and are just making things up. Nothing like you say have happened on here from me. How is it knocking saints fans by saying they would have a bias towards one of our own players?

Armstrong, are you intending to do one of these for games during the season too?

The new Danny Fox?

How can you put Wanyama third when he's completely unproven at this level? He night be there but you can't possibly say at this stage. Other than that is Agee with you rankings.

With the main debating point being is Schniderlin better than Carrick, yes? Cork I think most have accepted isn't as good and Wanyama we just don't know. So going by that the answer has to be a resounding no.

Sums up this forum mate, there are about 10 people on here who know what they are talking about, the majority of the others are utterly clueless ranging from not quite the full ticket to utterly insane.

Hang on a minute, you said earlier the opinions of people with a non saints bias don't matter and prove nothing, now you're saying they do matter and are the only gauge.

Okay do if it doesn't prove it then what would? Top flight appearances perhaps? International caps? Honours won? Of is it just in the opinion of saints fans one of our golden boys is far better than someone in their position with a host of honours, international caps and is a key player the reigning champions.

Im not saying he's not a good player, he's an excellent player and arguably along with lambert the best signing we've made for a long time. However i maintain most neutrals would say Carrick is better. This is also not to say he never will be better than him.

I think it's hilarious that this thread has been good with some decent discussion on here yet the first one to make a personal insult and comment is a mod, not the ones who are supposedly ruining the site.

You're getting personal, telling me people laughed at me at school because i've said something you dont agree with. You're doing exactly what you infract people for and what people are moaning about Jimmy. It's pretty pathetic. Read this thread in its entirty and understand what has been said before wading in with the accusations and insults pal. You clearly haven't as i've never said such i thing and you're making it up,i simply made a quite valid point that most saints fans would say Schniderlin is the better player, most neutrals would say carrick. What's negative about that?

Careful mate, Jimmy D will be on you for being negative about Saints for saying that.

From a mod your repsonse is emabrassing Jimmy. Like conversations do the thread has moved on from the OP to a wider debate. I think you need to read the entire thread before jumping to conclusions and making accusations fella, there has been some good debate on here about football yet you've turned it into a pop on me, you couldn't help yourself could you. Read the thread before tapping away angrily and accusing people of being negative about Saints. I have not made one single negative or sarcastic comment against Saints on this thread. And By the way i dont see what is so scandalous and offensive to you about saying that the league champions who finsihed 48 points above might have better players than us.

I just asked 10 locals and only one of them had heard of Morgan Schniderlin.

Okay lets try it another way. OUR. BEST. PLAYERS. ARE. NOT. AS. GOOD. AS. THEIR. BEST. PLAYERS. OUR. WORST. PLAYERS. ARE. NOT. AS. GOOD. AS THEIR. WORST. PLAYERs. Jesus. who'd have thought it could so difficult trying to explain why Manchester UNited are better than us.