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Well you haven't died for your cause, whatever it might be, like you claimed you would a few posts up yet have you. I very much doubt you've been beaten or imprisoned like you claim you would eitherr

Yet England managers shunted him to left midfield so we could persist with 4-4-2.

If that is how he wants to play then that's fine and it'll work as the only players we have that can beat a man wide are our full backs.Its if we persist with 4-2-3-1 that we'll have problems as we Lallana Davis and Ramirez best position in attacking central midfield, Rodriguez is a striker and our only real wide man is Puncheon and even he prefers cutting in.

We don't have any natural wide players in the squad and from our activity so far it seems we aren't looking to add any.

Its like depression, I'm sure there are a few genuine cases out there and some people really do have it, but there are also a lot that do it for attention and because they think its the cool thing to have.

Bravo sir bravo. You're doing your bit i see by posting about it on a football forum.

Tis goes back to the arguement from a few weeks back about Ramirez with some arguing that he hasn't impressed regularly as the players around him are not at the level he is at, whilst to a certain extent this is true with lesser players not having the vision to pick him out or the intelligence and movement to run onto his through balls it doesn't stop him being able to make simple passes, deliver a dead ball effectively or last more than an hour of a game. It also doesn't seem to effect our players ability to pick out Lamberts, Lallanas or Schniderlins passes so that's where the argument falls down. The fact of the matter is A true class player will always shine, yes they'll be closer marked and won't get the quality of service from better players but they'd still be able to tuck away chances, make telling passes, tackles, runs etc whoever they played for.

I still maintain we should have built a side around Paul Scholes, the best English midfielder since Gasgoine in his prime.

40 penalties in his Chelsea career in 202 goals, Lambert has 31 in 103 in his saints career, so Lambert percentage of pens per goals is higher. We can also discredit MLTS scoring record if pens don't count as he scored 49 pens out of 209 goals, so his record isn't as impressive either.

So if penalties dont count then we can also take off Lamberts penalties as well then, right. So Lamberts goal scoring record suddenly looks far less impressive doesn't it.

Its hilarious that the 3 best team in England and former champions league winners offered him a new deal and Manchester United were linked with signing him when before his contract was signed, yet Garrett appears to think he wouldn't get in saints team!!!

I don't think he's world class anymore it hes still a very, very good player. We dont really have anyone to compare him to He's a different type of player to Morgan, Cork and Wanyama and he's certainly better at the moment than our attacking midfield options. Answer my question, he averaged over a goal every other game last season from midfield you say he doesn't offer enough, what exactly do you want an attacking midfielder to offer?

You can't do that on FM mate, you have to play a set formation so I doubt most on here know what you're on about.

As sour Mush (LOLZ) said, its totally irrelevant as ther applies to pretty much every top player that has ever played and utterly stupid to try and discredit him by saying he's its only because he played in a good side. He started at West Ham. Redknapp who according to some on here ruins players. Why do you think he didn't end up at Brenford and Chelsea signed him from West Ham? Because he's better than ther level maybe? and no one is saying he is one of the best players ever, but he's certainly not sh*t like some have said and has been one of the top 5 or 6 midfielders to have played in this country in the last decade.

Messi wouldn't be half the player he was if he was playing for Reading. FFS.

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He scored 15 goals from midfield last season, averaging over a goal every other game. What exactly is it you are looking for him to offer?

Mulumba outclassed Morgan at the Hawthorns last season, he must be better than them both.

You probably shouldn't join in a conversation about football then.

On the plus side Canyoning is great fun.

And Chelsea because Lampard is sh*t.

He'll be injured in training this week then.

Is there really a need to praise anyone for getting rid of employees who have not up to the job being asked of them?

It's South Yorkshire mate, I'll be blackening up my face with coal, wearing a hard hat with a torch on it and singing anti Margaret thatcher songs to win over the locals.

when are ties to be played?