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So this leads to the question who was killed? A black man or a human being? I notice Radio 5 said the murder of the BLACK teenager, Stephen Lawrence when reporting it. Why are people so delighted that it was proven to be racist murder? Amidst all the celebration and backslapping of justice and hallelujah the judge said it was a racist attack, people seem to be forgetting that a lad has been killed here, regardless of the colour of his skin.

It's not burying my head in the sand. Why is a racist murder worse than any other? It was also a racist murder 18 years ago, society is a lot different now to then.

So you dont think we operate to a budget then? Dont forget we were told we didn't need to sell Chamberlain. Therefore we could still operate paying the wages we were and signing the players we did without that money.

Are transfers out our only income then?

The saddest thing of all this is that a lad has died, yet people seem to have lost sight in this amoungst the witch hunt to prove that it was a racist murder. People on here taking delight that it was proven to be a racist attack, that they were right because they believed what was in the press and didn't dare question it. It's quite sad that supposedly intellegent, fair minded people are making jokes about mitigation and throwing accusations around because some people on here have an alternative view to the murder than they do. A lad was murdered it's tragic, does it really matter why?

No, not really, we all thought it was magnificent when we first moved there but soon realised it's nothing special. I'm sure you'll do the same once the novelty has worn off.

25k + crowds and £12m in the kitty. If we have no money then something is seriously amiss.

I'd rather the hypothetical scenario that we keep RL and spend the Chamberlain money on players better than we have to play with him.

Like most things in the media, i am sure there is more to this than we are told.

Some our our crazy fans have come up with it. It sounds great when shouted in a broad 'ampshire accent. *"come on 'oover" ROFL's as does everyone in earshot.*

You cant dismiss a paper as being full of hate having an agenda when it prints an article that that you dont agree with, then praise it when it prints one you do. Either it's a hate filled paper full of lies or it isnt.

I didn't say i didn't accept it, i said that it was what the media wanted it to be. They'd already decided it was, they'd already decided the guilt of the individuals on trial. They were always going to be found guilty and it was always going to be a reported as a racist murder, regardless of what actually happened. As we all know you can rely on newspapers as they just report what suits their agenda, so obviosuly the papers would report it as a racist attack. And as we all know and have been told on here in the past the Mail is a disgusting paper full of lies with an agenda, so odd that this should be used to prove their guilt on the forum that hates it so much.

Fonte & Lallana? I'd say "Hoover" (PMSL) and Cork have been more influential recently. lambert has been outstanding most of the season as has Cork & RIchardson, "Hoover" (PMSL) has done well since he's been here. Fonte and Lallana haven't lived up to early season promise.

Maybe, although this is the evidence that has been reported of course to get the verdict and reporting that the media wanted.

They were always going to say it was race related, the media demanded it.

It was only 6 weeks ago we were told it was the best one ever. What has happened to the new Barcelona??

some people did mate...... Agree on Jutkevic, he'd be a good fit for us and like you say can also play with lambert not just as cover.

So are you all saying that the squad which was hailed recently as the greatest in Saints history in some quarters is not actually as good and behind the first XI we are seriously lacking any quality. it seems so from these posts.

A blip is 3 or 4 games. We have taken 8 points from 8 games. That is more than a blip. All teams get injuries and suspensions, we dont seem to be able to cope with them.

It's quite simply because what the club want doing,what they want to spend on it and how much it actually costs are miles apart.

Without lambert in the team i dont think we have even scored so far this season so it doesnt bode well. 4 points will realistically be the most we can expect considering our form at the teams we have to face.

Would you be happy with that after the start we've had?

Holmes on at right midfield. He's done well there previously this season. It's him more than anyone with the absense of Chaplow that i dont understand why he's not at least been given a start. Does it worry you the way we disintegrated after Lambers dismissal. Awful without Lambert at Doncaster as well, only recall us having one shot. Now we are without him for 3 games. Worrying that a team relys so heavily on one player and we have no one else to lean on.

No one is saying we should do a West Ham or Leicester. It's quite evident and has been to anyone that has been away this season that the squad lacks quality in depth. If you had only watched us at home then you'd think everything was wonderful. Our away performance have by and large been pretty absymal. One win since the second away game of the season tells you thr story. Not many teams in this division are worse on the road.