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Incorrect Yes — there are a few posts where hypochondriac shows some empathy for Palestinians, or at least makes acknowledgements tending toward it. But it’s mixed and conditional. Here are the examples and some nuance: Examples of empathy / acknowledgment Innocent Palestinians didn’t deserve what happened On page 87, hypochondriac says: “The innocent ones didn’t deserve it. The difference of opinion centres around who is to blame for what’s happened to them.” This is an explicit recognition that innocent Palestinians are suffering and that what’s happening to them is unjust. Concern about civilian casualties and future hatred On page 16: “No-one is on the side of Hamas here, the more innocent Palestinians die the more hatred for Israel builds up amongst the Palestinians and their Arab neighbours … ” Here, hypochondriac is warning about how the death of innocent Palestinians fuels more hatred and conflict. That is empathetic insofar as recognising the harm and consequences for civilians. Acknowledgement of large-scale harm, ‘loss of Palestinian lives’ Also page 16: “The bombing before is to make it safer for the Israel army, at the expense of the Palestinian lives.” While arguing or defending some aspect of Israel’s strategy, hypochondriac admits that Palestinian lives are being lost (“at the expense”) — another kind of acknowledging suffering and cost. Limits / Ambiguities The empathy is often conditional and balanced against his justification of Israeli actions. For example, he often accepts civilian deaths as an unavoidable consequence of operations against Hamas. He may express regret but still emphasize that Israel has reasons (real or perceived) for its actions. The language is sometimes harsh (towards Hamas) and less about the Palestinian civilians themselves — his focus tends to be on the threats from militant groups, how those groups are using civilians, etc. Even when he does express that “innocent ones didn’t deserve it,” he does not often go further into deeper emotional concern or offers of solidarity; it tends to be more “this is wrong / undeserved” rather than “this is tragic / I feel for them.” Conclusion In summary: yes — hypochondriac has shown empathy toward Palestinians in some respects: recognizing innocent civilian suffering, acknowledging that deaths are bad, and pointing out that harm to civilians fuels future problems. It’s not consistent or strong in every post, and often the empathy is paired with critique or justification of military actions.

Chat gpt disagrees Here’s a fuller look at what hypochondriac has said elsewhere in that thread, and whether those remarks show sympathy for Gaza or Palestinians. Overall, they show some acknowledgments but not strong expressions of sympathy. I’ve included quotes and analysis. What was found Acknowledgment of civilian deaths / harm done by Israel On Page 51: “Fact is that awful things happen during a war … I happen to think they have gone too far in some instances but at the same time I am not an Israeli and I can absolutely see why they are doing what they are doing.” This shows some recognition that Israel’s actions have had negative consequences, and that they have gone too far at times. It also suggests hypochondriac is considering both sides’ perspectives. Concern about future generations and cycle of violence On Page 87: “What was the realistic alternative that would have ended the killing? … Their existence in their land is an affront to them … It is not possible to negotiate with terrorists such as this. Destroying Hamas and Hezbollah … very flawed … many more deaths in the future regardless unfortunately but that’s religious fundamentalism for you.” And: “Exactly. There isn’t a solution. Their children and grandchildren were already guaranteed to face more of the same…” This suggests he believes the violence perpetuates and that harm will continue — implicitly including harm to civilians or to ordinary people caught up in the conflict. Critical of civilian casualties / Use of force, while defending the idea of Israel reacting On Page 16: “And if going in and getting the terrorists leads to lots of civilian casualties as it undoubtedly will? … Hamas insist on hiding in civilian populations because they don’t give a fuck about the Palestinian civilians. If they wanted to reduce civilian casualties they could do so but choose not to … At least you recognise that it’s not possible for them to look for a peaceful solution following these atrocities unlike some people who effectively want them to do nothing or very little in response to such barbarism.” Here, hypochondriac is acknowledging that actions are causing civilian casualties, that it’s brutal, using words like “atrocities” and “barbarism.” He’s also making a case that Hamas is partly responsible for making things worse by how they operate. Belief in mutual change and negotiation, once certain conditions met On Page 60: “Like I have said repeatedly, once the hostages have been returned and Hamas has been dismantled for a generation there will hopefully then be an opportunity for negotiation … both sides being free from violence … compromise and change on both sides.” This suggests he sees possibility of a future where civilians (on both sides) are less harmed, but it’s conditional on fairly stringent prerequisites. Does this count as sympathy ? That depends on what level of “sympathy” you’re asking about. If by sympathy you mean: Explicit statements of empathy (e.g. “I feel for the civilians in Gaza” or “I am sorry for what they are suffering”) → I saw none of that in these excerpts. Recognition of suffering / harm → Yes: he acknowledges that innocent people are harmed, that collateral damage occurs, that there are “atrocities” and “barbarism,” and that the ongoing violence breeds more suffering. Criticism of actions harming civilians → Some. He seems critical or at least acknowledges Israel has “gone too far in some instances,” and that civilian casualties are unavoidable but harmful. But he balances that with arguments defending Israel’s motivations/actions. So, hypochondriac does show some recognition of the suffering of Palestinian civilians / Gaza, though not strong emotional sympathy or overt solidarity. The tone is more analytical and conditional rather than openly sympathetic.

Ironically SOG does exactly what he accused you of. Does all in can to come across as a decent, fair minded bloke but whenever he gets rattled all the attacks, insults, accusations and "clumsy language" rear their head. They say you tell a person shows their true colours when they feel threated, SOG certainly does that. The mask always slips.

Disgusting comment. As one so quick to promote equality stating that strength or weakness can be determined solely on ones gender really does show your deep seated misogynistic views. However much to try to cover it up the nasty, vile bigot in you is never far from the surface is it SOG.

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This. Its odd, truly bizarre. Was there even a link to him this summer but it seems like one that we HAD TO SIGN but didnt and the board have fucked up again. So strange

who have we wasted millions on?

i know he looks good but all the cheerleading he HAS TO REPLACE DOWNES, hes a rolls royce, he's amazing is a little premature, he's played for us for about 20 minutes. I hope we dont get the inevitable wailing if he doesn't like up to the player people seem to have already decided he is.

I didn’t think he was any worse than anyone else and thought he put some decent whipped crosses in, defended pretty well too i don’t know why but he’s a player fans haven’t liked from the start. He was one of our better players last season and I don’t remember him having any particularly poor games since he’s been here. He’s also our top goal scorer and up until the weekend created the most chances in the league so can’t be that bad, although the former of these two facts is more of an indictment of our attacking this season

Is this your pound shop Eric Cantona impression?

What a load of bollocks

The crosses were decent enough, Mannings in particular, but they spent most of the second half with 10 men behind the ball and to be fair to them defended them very well. It was all a bit predictable and they were easily able to mop them up

no one will need 100 points for automatic promotion this season

leave me out of it

We're all going to have a game of twister?

That's kind of what he said he did preseason, however no point getting crosses into a tiny striker against 6 foot plus defenders

Just watched the highlight again with a clear head. The ref was bloody awful gave Pompey free kicks every time one of their players went down, the booking of Jander was ridiculous, didn't even touch him plus 4-5 other blatant dives which he gave every time. It didn't cost us the win as we werent good enough but it certainly didn't help the game as spectacle.

It an amazing job isnt it. Perfect job for Russell Martin. Come up with a philiosphy, identity call it what you want, bring in people to do it, if they screw up sack them and repeat. All the credit and power non of the responsibility.

i see their fans are spouting their usual bollocks. Pompey fans were amazing, scummers sat in silence, loads of empty seats, couldnt sell out etc. Atmosphere didn't sound great from either fans but then the game was one of the dullest i've ever seen so no surprises.

I thought Manning was fine, it was Mads who was getting skinned all day by Murphy. Fans have had it in for him all the time he’s been here for some reason but he’s better than he’s given credit for and has got a lovely delivery

What’s Manning done wrong? also no point starting Archer if we’re going to pump it long should be Stewart

Nah Aribo is still here and decent enough. That’s 4 for 2 positions with Azaz and Matsuki for the more advanced role. We don’t need any more than that, you’d think Jander will eventually replace Downes on current form.

He made the wrong decision a couple of times in key areas, with about 15 to go ball came to him edge of the area and it looked like a pass was on to play Frazer in, he tried a croqueta and lost it, by no means the worst but was quite ineffective

The players are anxious, there is a lot of anxiety when they play. They don’t do the in training and if they followed the tactics results would be a lot better. We should be proud of that second half today because they showed a lot of bravery. We’re changing a lot in a short space of time so just got to trust the process.