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I’m about 60 miles from Hull and the weather is absolutely horrendous. Rain has eased off for a bit but up until about 8.30 it was torrential. Safe travels for those heading up, not going to be a nice drive

Bro and Mandems gotta dodge the feds as we are bare faces on da manner. ronnie Pickering been disrespecting my Gs and we is gonna bust open his blud clot so he’s gone into bare lock down as he’s a pussy clot You get me cus?

DEF and DEF Yoof travelling over tomorrow morning. I don’t want to say when as we’re going to slip the old bill. loose lips sink ships but Those that know know and I’ll be signing a few autographs and a photos at the agreed location from 11.30am. word is Ronnie Pickering is shitting himself after being heard shooting his mouth off. Now the DEF are travelling he has cleaned our B&Q of wood and nails as he’s boarded his house up to hide from Europe’s most notorious firm.

I had to lol at Still describing getting Russball out of the system as like trying to give up smoking 😂

The Belgian Don Howe Get it in the mixer!!!!

It’s all a load of bollocks. Like everything football tactic goes in cycles. 10 years ago the most unfashionable thing to be was a big centre forward now they’re back in fashion. All this shite about false 9s, number 10, 6s etc inverted wingers it’s all shite and new names given to old old positions it’s basically a load of geeks trying to sound clever

No Armstrong was by and large excellent for us Flynn Downes seems like a little drip

Is he saying there is anxiety amongst the players, that we are suffering from scar tissue from last season, that the players are not following the plan and the players need to be braver?

If they hadn't bent over backwards to accomodate the loony left and uncontrolled mass immigration freedom of speech would not be an issue

Academies these days are just another means of profit for clubs. They're all at it, Chelsea, Liverpool, Man City (as we well know) make fortunes from selling their players and it's all clear profit. The idea that they're bringing them in to play in their first team is just nonsense. You might get one or two that do but the vast majority will end up elsewhere and will point to the fact they've spent a number of years at top academy. If a kid wants to go and learn his trade earning loads more than he will here then you cant blame him. There is a very interesting podcast i listen to about youth football. The point it makes is that if you're coming out of a club like Chelsea or Man City having not made it you're going to likely get another contract probably worst case one or two levels down, simply because clubs will take a gamble on a kid from there. It's much harder going up or staying the same level. A good mate of mines kid was at Bradford for years, got a few offers at championship clubs for relatively good money when he was about 18 turned them down thinking he'd make Bradfords first team and got sold that dream to stay. Got a 1 year Pro contract, Got first team, played 3 times including one MOM. Then a new manager came in brought all his own players in and released him. He then couldnt get another pro club and is now gardening for a job and playing Northern Counties league. Thats how quick it can change if you dont take your chance.

Been a season ticket holder since the days when the home games were at the Common. Saw us beat Northam Gasworks 4-1 and i was hooked, not missed a game since. We were very angry when we changed our name from St Marys YMA to Southampton, i wrote a strongly worded letter to the club about how we were losing our tradition. On a seperate note I was surprised to see that young man ejected on sunday for being on the pitch, back when i started going people would often enter the pitch on the common exercising their right to roam. Another example of how mass uncontrolled immigration has take away our liberties.

Why?

So what? @egghas more or less said what I would so I won’t repeat it but your point on this is weird.

Liveramento is an incredibly bad comparison for your arguement, Developed by Chelsea, probably on a very good contract for his age there, sold to us for a 5m fee and large sell on clause, sold to Newcastle and now playing champions league football at one of the worlds richest clubs. So being in Chelseas academy does work. Liveramento is the poster boy for how it can do so well for player and Chelsea. The idea that he was better off staying with us is just cheerleading nonsense. For every Tyler DIbling there are 10 Jake Heskeths. If you turn down a 4 year contract on 20k a week because a few fans think you're much better off at Southampton then is just garbage im afraid. He's set up for life, even if he doesn't make it at Chelsea another club up the pyramid will take a gamble on him, because he's at Chelsea. Provided he doesn't get injured or become a crack head i'll wager he'll get at least one more decent contract somewhere even if he doesn't cut it at Chelsea.

Same here just drove to Manchester airport took twice as long as it should due to rain if only there was someone who could post charts and graphs to show how it’s been compared to the past

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DLQVE1wOd8C/?igsh=NWVjaWR5YnM5cWJ0

It’s pissed it down all week so far

There has to be more to Will Still than this. You don’t get to be one of Europes highest rated young coaches by playing long ball into a short striker

He’s not my man. I’m just providing a counter argument. SOG readily accuses others of display the exact same behaviour he does. This is another example

Incorrect Yes — there are a few posts where hypochondriac shows some empathy for Palestinians, or at least makes acknowledgements tending toward it. But it’s mixed and conditional. Here are the examples and some nuance: Examples of empathy / acknowledgment Innocent Palestinians didn’t deserve what happened On page 87, hypochondriac says: “The innocent ones didn’t deserve it. The difference of opinion centres around who is to blame for what’s happened to them.” This is an explicit recognition that innocent Palestinians are suffering and that what’s happening to them is unjust. Concern about civilian casualties and future hatred On page 16: “No-one is on the side of Hamas here, the more innocent Palestinians die the more hatred for Israel builds up amongst the Palestinians and their Arab neighbours … ” Here, hypochondriac is warning about how the death of innocent Palestinians fuels more hatred and conflict. That is empathetic insofar as recognising the harm and consequences for civilians. Acknowledgement of large-scale harm, ‘loss of Palestinian lives’ Also page 16: “The bombing before is to make it safer for the Israel army, at the expense of the Palestinian lives.” While arguing or defending some aspect of Israel’s strategy, hypochondriac admits that Palestinian lives are being lost (“at the expense”) — another kind of acknowledging suffering and cost. Limits / Ambiguities The empathy is often conditional and balanced against his justification of Israeli actions. For example, he often accepts civilian deaths as an unavoidable consequence of operations against Hamas. He may express regret but still emphasize that Israel has reasons (real or perceived) for its actions. The language is sometimes harsh (towards Hamas) and less about the Palestinian civilians themselves — his focus tends to be on the threats from militant groups, how those groups are using civilians, etc. Even when he does express that “innocent ones didn’t deserve it,” he does not often go further into deeper emotional concern or offers of solidarity; it tends to be more “this is wrong / undeserved” rather than “this is tragic / I feel for them.” Conclusion In summary: yes — hypochondriac has shown empathy toward Palestinians in some respects: recognizing innocent civilian suffering, acknowledging that deaths are bad, and pointing out that harm to civilians fuels future problems. It’s not consistent or strong in every post, and often the empathy is paired with critique or justification of military actions.

Chat gpt disagrees Here’s a fuller look at what hypochondriac has said elsewhere in that thread, and whether those remarks show sympathy for Gaza or Palestinians. Overall, they show some acknowledgments but not strong expressions of sympathy. I’ve included quotes and analysis. What was found Acknowledgment of civilian deaths / harm done by Israel On Page 51: “Fact is that awful things happen during a war … I happen to think they have gone too far in some instances but at the same time I am not an Israeli and I can absolutely see why they are doing what they are doing.” This shows some recognition that Israel’s actions have had negative consequences, and that they have gone too far at times. It also suggests hypochondriac is considering both sides’ perspectives. Concern about future generations and cycle of violence On Page 87: “What was the realistic alternative that would have ended the killing? … Their existence in their land is an affront to them … It is not possible to negotiate with terrorists such as this. Destroying Hamas and Hezbollah … very flawed … many more deaths in the future regardless unfortunately but that’s religious fundamentalism for you.” And: “Exactly. There isn’t a solution. Their children and grandchildren were already guaranteed to face more of the same…” This suggests he believes the violence perpetuates and that harm will continue — implicitly including harm to civilians or to ordinary people caught up in the conflict. Critical of civilian casualties / Use of force, while defending the idea of Israel reacting On Page 16: “And if going in and getting the terrorists leads to lots of civilian casualties as it undoubtedly will? … Hamas insist on hiding in civilian populations because they don’t give a fuck about the Palestinian civilians. If they wanted to reduce civilian casualties they could do so but choose not to … At least you recognise that it’s not possible for them to look for a peaceful solution following these atrocities unlike some people who effectively want them to do nothing or very little in response to such barbarism.” Here, hypochondriac is acknowledging that actions are causing civilian casualties, that it’s brutal, using words like “atrocities” and “barbarism.” He’s also making a case that Hamas is partly responsible for making things worse by how they operate. Belief in mutual change and negotiation, once certain conditions met On Page 60: “Like I have said repeatedly, once the hostages have been returned and Hamas has been dismantled for a generation there will hopefully then be an opportunity for negotiation … both sides being free from violence … compromise and change on both sides.” This suggests he sees possibility of a future where civilians (on both sides) are less harmed, but it’s conditional on fairly stringent prerequisites. Does this count as sympathy ? That depends on what level of “sympathy” you’re asking about. If by sympathy you mean: Explicit statements of empathy (e.g. “I feel for the civilians in Gaza” or “I am sorry for what they are suffering”) → I saw none of that in these excerpts. Recognition of suffering / harm → Yes: he acknowledges that innocent people are harmed, that collateral damage occurs, that there are “atrocities” and “barbarism,” and that the ongoing violence breeds more suffering. Criticism of actions harming civilians → Some. He seems critical or at least acknowledges Israel has “gone too far in some instances,” and that civilian casualties are unavoidable but harmful. But he balances that with arguments defending Israel’s motivations/actions. So, hypochondriac does show some recognition of the suffering of Palestinian civilians / Gaza, though not strong emotional sympathy or overt solidarity. The tone is more analytical and conditional rather than openly sympathetic.

Ironically SOG does exactly what he accused you of. Does all in can to come across as a decent, fair minded bloke but whenever he gets rattled all the attacks, insults, accusations and "clumsy language" rear their head. They say you tell a person shows their true colours when they feel threated, SOG certainly does that. The mask always slips.

Disgusting comment. As one so quick to promote equality stating that strength or weakness can be determined solely on ones gender really does show your deep seated misogynistic views. However much to try to cover it up the nasty, vile bigot in you is never far from the surface is it SOG.

Tall Paul

This. Its odd, truly bizarre. Was there even a link to him this summer but it seems like one that we HAD TO SIGN but didnt and the board have fucked up again. So strange