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I was aware they wouldn't be allowed to be trans in their country but had no idea what religion they were. Not everyone from Algeria is a Muslim. Irrelevant anyway as they aren't trans.

You've had your answers. Get reading.

Correct. My opinion is not evidence. The evidence is evidence. Read the thread egg. It isn't a hard thing to do.

In what way? Genuinely interested to hear your views. My stance is that you can't change your sex. That's true for transgender people and for people unfortunate enough to be born with DSD.

A) adult female human. That is the definition of a woman. B) I've answered that extensively in previous posts. So I've answered both and you're not satisfied with the answers. That seems to be your problem not mine.

Read my posts. I'm not repeating it all again I set it all out extensively in more than one post. I assume you have eyes and working hands. Now would be a good time to use them.

It's only a professional troll in the form of soggy and the likes of egg who only started with this sort of thing when he agreed with soggy over Palestine and can't handle Israeli support. The amusing thing in this case is that I hadn't even realised that Khelif was a Muslim until egg Brough it up (assuming what he says is true.) The fact that one of the first things he looks at is the religion of the person involved says more about him I would say.

I'm sure trousers will be relieved to know that you're the judge! Regarding your second point I agree. Khelif isn't a bloke because I say they are.

Most of my replies have been in response to posters either asking me a question, misrepresenting what I've posted or posting outright falsehood which I've corrected. Inevitably that means there will some repition of my views.

Fair enough. In some ways that's what a forum is for though. Would be pretty empty if no one was prepared to put forward views robustly. Particularly when those views are backed up by more than just opinion.

Being a shit boxer with male advantages doesn't mean they aren't male. I'd lose to the top female sprinters it doesn't make me not a man.

You can call me whatever you like. I can also think you're a bit of a prick and an odd bloke to throw a massive tantrum that has lasted for months now all because I supported the Israelis against terrorists and it upset you.

I agree. I think it's fair to say that people are slightly more educated than they were when Semenya started out and are therefore less tolerant of this sort of thing occurring.

And you accuse me of trolling.

You're just asking questions that I've already answered. Plenty of evidence that the person has XY chromosomes and is therefore a biological man just like Semenya who fathered children. Go back and read my many posts on the issue. I repeat myself in response to you and then you criticise me for writing the same thing repeatedly. Transphobia and islamophobia are ridiculous nonsense terms employed by oddball like you to try to silence legitimate criticism. The fact this person is a Muslim has no relevance to anything and in fact I was not even aware of it until you just brought it up. Maybe you need to consider your own "islamophobia".

I take your point though I'm not sure that's entirely my stance in this case since we aren't dealing with matters of opinion here. Yes some of the information is incomplete but that's due to medical records being confidential and the is entirely the choice of the athlete not to challenge the rulings or make the findings public.

I expect you're right but is that speculation on your part or actual inside information? I haven't seen much to suggest we are looking at loans at this stage.

My problem is that the other person is not a woman. They are being punched in the face by a biological man. No surprise that you'd be OK with something like that.

I did define it. It was easy. I literally defined it. Your stance is the same as asking for the definition of hungry, me saying "feeling or showing the need for food" and then you coming back asking me for a definition of food. Nonsensical.

"you're content to see Muslim women and children killed and aimed daily in Palestine" you cretin you've got no evidence for that you're just eternally butthurt that I don't agree with you about Israel and have some sympathy for their aims and their people. I'm fully aware of your stance on the issue and we disagree. What the fuck does someone being Muslim have to do with anything? And I have no problem with any woman from any religion boxing other women. The problem is that this person is not one. Take it elsewhere.

Hold on. You asked for a definition and are now asking for further definitions of words. If I explain that an adult is someone over the age of 18 will you then ask me to define what age means?

I still don't consider it likely but it would improve our team a lot if it happened. Bednarek THB Taylor/Stephens With Sugawara and KWP as wing backs is not a half bad defence.

The evidence is the chromosome test and the quotes from the IBA and WBO officials as well as the Algerian Olympic commission who stated Khelif was like Semenya. As I'm sure you know, the IBA are unable to release the medicakcrecords without permission because they are confidential. For it not to be the case both officials woukd have to be lying and the official from Khelif's own federation. If it's a load of rubbish then why is Khelif not demanding the medical tests from the IBA are not made public at once to prove they aren't credible and faked? Why did Khelif not appeal to CAS and get this slur on their name publicly refused so there could be no doubt?

It is a worry. You get the feeling we are going to concede sooo many shitty goals. Will have to hope we have the creativity and firepower to cope.

I'm correcting misinformation on this thread that calls Khelif a biological woman. If that were true there would be no controversy. Khelif has not changed their gender, they are biologically male as I've explained with a DSD. Nothing to do with gender. The "mistake" as you call it robs women in sport and has the potential to cause serious injury or even death. It's dangerous and deeply unfair to women. That's why it's worth discussing.