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That's a complete misrepresentation of my view. I don't think that people who don't share my view are jew hating antisemites. I disagree with almost everything egg has said on this thread but I don't consider him to be antisemitic and I have never said so. Why would I retract something that I have never claimed or said? I don't actually know what dog whistle islamaphobia is, that's the kind of nonsense term you'd hear on Owen Jones' social media pages. If you've got some examples of something you consider to be islamaphobic then we can discuss it. Otherwise you're just attempting to baselessly smear me because you disagree with my opinion.

It's just that you made a very bold claim about what the protests were about. I'd be concerned that a majority of those organising the march would have different views to yours about what these marches are about given their links to Hamas.

Why is one of the main organisers a former head of Hamas? Why do over half of the organisers have links to Hamas?

Little tip- don't provide unwarranted and patronising "advice" to someone else on a Web forum when you've spent the last few pages calling them naive and ridiculous.

I'm comfortable with the claim that evoking the Holocaust and concentration camps when discussing Jews or Israelis and not using this language during the discussion of other conflicts is antisemitic. You can wail about it all you want and call it ridiculous but it's transparent behaviour and it's not just confined to this forum. Most of the time these comparisons are accompanied with a knowing smile or a smug laugh. They know what they're doing. You had an MP doing it I nthe radio the other week and getting called out for their odious behaviour and it's over a lot of social media. In some cases they've described Israelis as worse than the Nazis where again the comparison is being made for obvious reasons.

Precisely. You can name dozens of similar conflicts over the past decade and relatively not a peep. As soon as the Jews are involved in something, out come the Holocaust comparisons and thousands marching, sprinkled with veiled and overt chants and threats towards Jews. It's all so predictable and to suggest that the Jewish people aren't held to a different standard by many and that there aren't some people itching to shout about this over anything else is just incorrect. I do have some Jewish friends and I know they feel a similar way it's very sad that they woild feel unsafe in this nations capital.

So a black person can be racist against another black person even if they are the same ethnicity.

Can a black person discriminate against another black person due to their skin colour?

Brave freedom fighters.

Sure pal. I haven't seen you personally make holocaust or concentration camp comparisons so I don't consider you antisemitic, just misguided and wrong.

No I didn't say that. Evoking the Holocaust and concentration camps in this context is the anti-semitic bit and it's not the first time on this thread. It's also all over social media and from certain left wing commentators. Like I said, they know why they're doing it and why they don't use it in other circumstances.

If it wasn't the Jews involved in this no one would be grasping to make the same comparisons. Bunch of Africans massacred last week by Islamists and nothing about a new holocaust or bringing up concentration camps. It's transparent why it's being done.

The post from here a few weeks ago baiut creating a buffer zone between Gaza and Israel may be accurate. Would probably make their people safer.

People like that know exactly what they're doing when they use that language. Just unfettered jew hate.

Quite possibly but that's what Israel wanted so they may have achieved their objective then.

Afghanistan is not currently at war with the west. They have some terrible people in charge but that's for the to sort out. I don't want to go into some conversation about what trump is or is not responsible for because it's boring and there's arguments on both sides. It doesn't need saying but Trump has loads of faults but he didn't drag America into loads of wars unlike many other presidents which was my point. Whether he was responsible for leaving Afghanistan in the manner they did doesn't change that.

I'm not going into the details of that but it didn't happen under trump and even if he was responsible for it, it's got little to do with peace which is what I was talking about.

Maybe but it worked pretty well during his first term. It certainly wasn't anywhere near as bad as most predicted (admittedly not all down to him tbf).

You made that comparison when you misread a picture of neville chamberlain.

A more interesting question is how much would they invade and occupy if they had the capability to do so?

We laugh but Trump actually kept a lot of peace. Primarily because he was a loose cannon and that uncertainty made people nervous. Being a headcase can have it's advantages on occasion.

I think it's fair to say there's religious loons on both sides. The whole conflict is in some way due to religion.

Do you have evidence that Palestinians are native to Palestine?

He's doing neither. He's suggesting that like Neville, he's coming out with soundbites that make people feel good but which has no effect on the reality. You can use all the nice words you like but when Hamas is never ever going to agree on these terms, it's all hot air.

I'm not sure why this is being argued. It's indisputable that people are dying including children. The actual numbers aren't really relevant to the discussion.