hypochondriac

Demarcus beasley

Don't forget the racist wine industry

The message is so clear that the Premier league and other sports have had to issue clarifications, players themselves have made concerns known and captains are talking about issuing their own statement clarifying things. Odd that they all feel the need to do that for something so clear.

Isn't it strange that those who believe the BBC are not biased are also those most opposed to dropping the bit where people are forced to pay them.

"a few people from some organisations within BLM." Do you realise how odd that phrase sounds? It's blacklivesmatter.com, blacklivesmatteruk twitter page, the gofundme that has raised millions, spokespeople all over the news being explicit about their beliefs, the founder of the movement describing herself as Marxist, the organisation being explicit about what they believe for a decade, placards outlining many of these views at every march. It's not like some fringe part of it. If it were irrelevant then they'd feel no need to make clarifications and climbdowns. The fact that they have destroys your attempt to write it off as something tiny or irrelevant.

Fear of a social media mob calling you racist is a powerful thing. Who would want hundreds of anonymous users targeting your organisation or calling up advertisers and organising boycotts? It's why we have so many companies and individuals who shouted their support and who are now climbing down and issuing clarifications.

It's got nothing to do with the press. The ambiguity is there because the organisation called black lives matter has existed for over a decade and their views were well known before all of this. It's the equivalent of setting up a new group called antifa because you're anti fascist and then complaining when it's pointed out that there's already a group called that, some of the new followers of your group already support the old group and your group is damaged by the association.

They put themselves in a situation where they supported black lives matter who subsequently put out a number of controversial tweets. People who weren't previously aware started looking into things more closely and weren't happy with what they found out, ex footballers expressed reservations and so the Premier league panicked and walked back their previous support. Its a situation entirely of their own making and no doubt they will have feared it doing damage hence their statement but I'm not surprised that someone like you who has been an apologist from the start would try to play it down.

Even if what they are now saying is true and they never supported the black lives matter organisation, why would a multi million pound organisation like the Premier league put themselves in a position where there is any ambiguity at all? It seems the desire to not be called racist has outweighed any sort of common sense or due diligence and it will damage them as a consequence. I don't think this would have happened without the stadiums being closed to fans because they wouldn't want the spectacle of people in the stands expressing their displeasure.

Unfortunately that just highlights how deep this malaise has got. I expect they will also be releasing clarifications and caveats to their support like the Premier league and their brands will be similarly tarnished like them too.

And by reasons do you mean things like quoting their own words or linking to their website and fundraising pages? It's not exactly some obscure piece of information.

Again, I didn't say that did I. Why are you so intent on both putting words in my mouth that I didn't say and apologising for this organisation when they have multiple examples of this sort of thing?

You realise when I say "everyone" I don't mean literally every single person in the UK right?

Are other races allowed to be sexually racist?

We've been through this so many times now. Nobody is against equality.

There's no possibly about it. I think it's clear I'm not neutral on black lives matter and literature like this should tell you why.

We all know why don't be silly.

Think blue is away kit with reverse being a third kit.

Would be great if a black player was the first not to do it.

My advice is not to let anyone bully you into letting go of your principles. Hopefully it will all be over by then.

Takeover thread part 83. Bring back lls, help me Rhonda, saints go wilde, Saint David, saintlee who is still off on a plumbing job and ring up the local American radio stations and look for yachts and earlobes.

Like I said I'd encourage people to ignore posts like this full of falsehoods and look into it for themselves.

It wasn't a question that required an answer.

Not sure why anyone else would want to use such vapid and meaningless phrases.

No you can believe what you like because I don't care about you. Posters are welcome to do their own research and reach their own conclusions. It's not hard to find, I just have no desire to argue about it with you in particular so crack on.