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Of course if that's your opinion. That's not what I asked though and the reticence from Jonnyboy to answer a simple question makes me suspicious that he does think that violence is an appropriate response in these cases (he has pretty much confirmed that already with his view that a nazi sympathiser getting his head kicked in should be applauded.) Jonnyboy do you condemn the many acts of violence committed by those supposed antifa members in that video? Do you believe it was right that Richard Spencer was punched in the face?

What does that have to do with anything? Why should right wingers have to condemn violence before you are able to? If so called right wingers are unable to condemn unprovoked and violent actions when asked then really that says more about them and their clear bias than anything else. So again, do you condemn the many violent actions of those individuals in that video that claim to be a part of antifa?

Who decides who is a genuine nazi sympathiser? Do you applaud white supremacist Richard Spencer being punched in the face? You also never answered my question, do you condemn the violence from my video clip committed by those who claim to be from antifa? Pretty disgusting that you would see any sort of violence as a solution. I want to see the ideas of nazi sympathisers publicly challenged and nazi sympathisers made to look foolish when their ideas are seen as vacuous and worthy of derision. I certainly won't be applauding people who think a violent response to ideas is something that should be encouraged.

I can see it now

Oh I see. Kindly point out for me which of these are real members of Antifa and which ones are just pretending? Let me guess, all the peaceful ones are the real antifa? So who are the others then? Because they claim to be antifa, some have even been viewed in the media as spokespeople for the group. Are they fake antifa too? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4G8QLT6tFWU No doubt you will join me in condemning these violent thugs who have seemingly taken over antifa and committed domestic terrorist activities in its name and in the process blackening the name of the scores of peaceful antifa who would never dream of committing unprovoked violence. If not, why not?

One example? There are literally dozens of examples (a few are listed above.) With regards the bike lock here is the video and news article about the unprovoked and violent attack carried out by a member of antifa: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-intersect/wp/2017/05/29/a-man-clobbered-trump-supporters-with-a-bike-lock-the-internet-went-looking-for-him/?utm_term=.8b13f205b3ec It was subsequently discovered that this nasty assault was committed by a professor and he is currently awaiting trial I believe. Thankfully the victim was left with no permanent damage but no doubt it could have led to a much more serious injury. Of course there are many other attacks which have left people with various injuries including eyesight loss. It's odd that you would try to compare disgusting violence from the far right with this sort of behaviour since it's not something which should be compared. The far left have more than their fair share or violent extremists who are happy to use physical attacks to get their own way and that should be roundly condemmed by all. Lets not forget this also: http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-pol-virginia-shooter-profile-20170614-story.html

That's like saying the KKK are not fascists, some of their activities have been described as fascist. When a significant percentage of members within an organisation commit domestic terrorism then at what point is it accurately described as a domestic terrorist group? Antifa allows domestic terrorism to be committed in their name and a number of members have been involved in violence and unprovoked attacks. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/08/28/black-clad-antifa-attack-right-wing-demonstrators-in-berkeley/?utm_term=.decde9a1ee16 http://edition.cnn.com/2017/08/18/us/unmasking-antifa-anti-fascists-hard-left/index.html http://dailycaller.com/2017/05/25/former-college-prof-arrested-for-antifa-bike-lock-attacks-in-berkeley/ http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4828672/Masked-antifa-swarm-Berkeley-rally-assaulting-several.html

Claims that it is a self defence organisation is frankly idiotic considering the amount of violent incidents that have been perpetrated by them under little or no provocation. Smashing up and setting fire to shops in Berkley and smashing people over the head with bike locks is not self defence when the only reason they were violently protesting is because someone said something they disapproved of. Words are not violence yet antifa will claim that they are so that they can use violent actions in response. It's disgusting and most right thinking people will abhor their actions just as they abhor any violence that stems from the far right. It's little wonder that they were officially recognised by US homeland security whilst Obama was still in power as domestic terrorists because that is exactly what they are. Also massive lol that the link you sent me to has progressive in the title. Nothing biased about that source! [emoji23]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/antifa-domestic-terrorists-us-security-agencies-homeland-security-fbi-a7927881.html I accept your apology.

Laughable. No one has ever claimed that "nazis" were created by anti fascists. They were however undoubtedly encouraged by those who use identity politics in some sort of war and by the domestic terrorist group antifa. You're the muppet sunshine if you try to claim otherwise.

And you likewise [emoji23]

You could just as easily accuse the hard left corbynistas of encouraging a hard right extremist fringe. I would consider that more likely personally, particularly when you consider how leftie types largely dominate the media landscape.

Losersaint is much more appropriate.

What expectation you weirdo? Muted applause isn't an expectation that the new owner is negative but people are hardly going to clap like seals just because they show up, people have to earn trust and support.

Would be nice to hear from them at some point about their plans or why they have bought into the club. Something like a radio solent fans forum might be a useful time to ask some questions.

Franchise fc beating the Dons.

https://youtu.be/qjlhg_3Jjew "We've got to recognise the fact that British Pakistani men are disproportionately engaged in grooming gangs"

A few butthurt cabbies have moaned and they bent to the pressure. Pathetic and the public will be the ones who missed out

I saw this post and I knew who had written it before I confirmed it by looking.

Tommy Robinson is a tough one. I've listened to some of his most recent stuff and I haven't heard anything he has said that is racist. However, he has clearly held racist views in the past - I believe he may have been secretly filmed using some choice language- and his membership of the edl was never a good idea- something he apparently regrets. Unfortunately he's not exactly posh or particularly well spoken so he's never likely to get a fair crack with the media but having said that I don't think he can really complain about some of the names he is called considering views he has held over the years. That doesn't mean he doesn't make some valid points that should be considered now but I do think the way he puts some of his points across is not really helpful to any debate and is designed to provoke a reaction and get people's backs up rather than to affect change.

You sound deranged.

Much much too early to be gloating about Everton's current position. They have played some tough teams so far.

I didn't say there weren't things to discuss but clearly there are usually more talking points after a loss than a win.

It's not incredible is it really. As pointed out a number of times, much more controversy and things to talk about after a loss than a win. There's only so many times everyone can agree that it was a good three points and a positive performance.

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