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Regardless of what anyone thinks of GM on here, he is entirely correct on this one.

I wasn't referring to kim personally. North Korean media called Obama a monkey.

Probably garner more interest if you post the picture up on here.

It's the bizarrest of bizarre outlooks to hate America and the west to the extent that you try to equate their actions to the monstrous regime in north Korea. America has their problems no doubt about it but it's not on the same planet as North Korea. Here is just one of many examples (read some books and see for yourself.) Edit: I was referring to aintforever here.

And the threats of raining down fire on the US and South Korea as well as the racist insults against the likes of Obama?

And the computer attacks, kidnappings, incarcerations, torture, murder of their own people, smuggling, fraud etc etc. It's a whole lot more than simply arming themselves and it's naive in the extreme to imagine that's all they are doing.

In what way is it defending itself?

That's true but it can also be a useful indicator about how we are going to play. Positive signs that the manager changed things around in the second half and seemingly it worked.

No one brought up Hillsborough except Liverpool fans. Again.

There's a reason they call it the self pity city and it's got nothing to do with Hillsborough. Look at the way they acted with Suarez for example- always someone else's fault and always playing the woe is me card.

Superb! Best not show them crab lungs' rant from the other day then...

Hilarious if he goes the amount t of people who will be disappointed. It's no different to every other time this has happened. I expected him to leave months ago so I'm not in the least bit bothered and interested to see how we spend the cash.

Have a lot of scouse mates. Coutinho is their best player by a fair distance- it's laughable to call him a squad player.

This is why you are referred to as an apologist for extremist islam. The US air force has people of all faiths in it including Muslims and people of no faith at all. It is clearly not a Christian organisation even if it has a number of Christians in it. Trying to pretend it is a Christian organisation in some bizarre attempt to claim US atrocities as Christians and thus to downplay or motigate the many atrocities committed by actual Islamic extremist organisations is just strange.

My struggle is how can non Muslims so confidently assert that the IS interpretation is a perversion of Islam given the violent actions of Muhammed who is referred to as "the perfect example" in the Qaran and given that we have entire countries that are supposedly devout Muslim countries that persecute homosexuals and have never heard of women's rights. Are they all perverting Islam? Seems to me that historically Islam very much has its roots in violence and subjugation and virtually every Middle Eastern Muslim country has at least some elements of barbarism that would be rejected by the West. Yet politicians still flatly deny that this has anything at all to do with Islam and its that falsehood that I think riles people most of all.

I'll reply to the rest of that later but let me assure you that as someone who was once in an amateur production of Ruddigore, I am well acquainted with the word Poltroon.

If we get in a decent DM and AM or RM depending on how we want to play then I'll be happy as long as we replace anyone who leaves.

I'd be interested to know what arguments or passages you found unreasonable but as you said, you've made your mind up already based on a twitter account so no need. I think if you were to read the book, you'd be surprise at some of the content. Pleas for no incitement to violence against Muslims under any circumstances and shunning physical conflict in favour of winning a battle of ideas because a conflict is giving the extremists what they want for example, ideas that I would not have expected from someone as disgusting and biased as you claim. I suppose the main difference is that I'm quite prepared to have a civil conversation regarding Islam and I'm happy to listen to opposing viewpoints. The trouble is, the usual response is to deflect onto other religions, discuss personalities rather than arguments that have been put forward and if that fails start calling people made up names like islamaphobic. As I said, happy to consider other points of view that differ from my own if you hold such views. Tadpole. (see I can write a meaningless word at the end of a post too.)

Have you read the book? Probably better to judge for yourself before flinging round words like disgusting based on a twitter feed.

35 would probably get him.

Not on your life my hindu friend.

Oh and by the way Tim thanks for the reasonable reply, it makes a change rather than the mindless shouts of racist or made up words like islamaphobic. I would genuinely like to hear refutations in a calm manner from reformers like Nawaz to some of the points raised. The problem is that the vast majority of Muslims in the media come across as incredibly defensive or even aggressive when Islam and its teachings are questioned in any way which says a lot itself. I'm open to considering an argument supporting Islam as a religion of peace but the teachings contained in the qaran and most troublingly the "most perfect example" set by Muhammed is directly contradictory to this claim.

Well Yes that is true but it rather puts it into perspective when you see stats like since September 11th there have been 5 deadly terror attacks inspired by Islam every single day, a total of more than 27,000 attacks in a decade and a half. Kings college London monitored jihadist attacks for November 2014 and the report lists 664 attacks in 14 countries with a total of 5,042 deaths in just that month alone. So whilst it is clear that all religions inspire atrocities, it is undeniable that the problem stemming from Islamic extremism is much greater than any other religion in the 21st century.

"so it is all well and good to point to institutions like the Spanish inquisition as past examples of how other traditions besides Islam engaged in religiously inspired violence, but catholic authorities burning people at the stake is clearly not quite the problem that we are facing at the moment is it? So yes let's have a debate about history, but let us also recognise that, in our own century, the overwhelming majority of those who commit acts of violence with scriptural quotations on their lips belong to the Muslim faith." I don't believe Islam has been hijacked in order to manipulate people as you claim. Indeed, the scripture is very clear with explicit commands of violence towards the unbeliever and death to apostates. The concept of abrogation is troubling here too where greater theological weight is placed on passages that occur later in the qaran and unfortunately that means all the violent verses. Literal interpretations of the qaran are the only accepted forms in the middle east and the few reformers who call for a reinterpretation are often persecuted. "Hinduism, Buddhism, Christianity and Judaism all experienced a variety of reform movements that moved many of the adherents of these religions (I'm many cases a majority) away from literal understandings of their faith. Islam has never experienced such a movement, at least not a widespread and successful one. Literalism therefore reigns supreme in the vast majority of mosques abd Muslim institutions of higher learning. In fact, anyone who would like to propose innovative interpretations to soften the hard edges of Islam's teaching on unbelievers is quite likely to be met with the serious charge of committing the ultimate theological sin, namely bidah (or introducing innovation.)" It seems clear to me that without a form of reformation- which is virtually impossible as it currently stands- we will continue to have to deal with a significant number of Islamist across the world with highly regressive views.

Not sure I understand your point here, no one is defending the Bible and some of the things written in it. Not sure what relevance it has when discussing Islam and some of its doctrine.