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It tells us that in one constituency with very specific demographics, the swing from hardcore Labour to Reform is not as strong as some predicted now there is a more hard left wing choice coupled with concerning accusations of sectarian and family voting which obviously won't affect the majority of other constituencies. If this pattern holds up in other constituencies then it will be more notable but England is traditionally socially conservative do I can't see it myself. Did the reform vote out perform the traditional right wing vote for this constituency does anyone know?

Indeed they hsould and probably would have won. Much more of a popular person than Starmer and would probably make a better PM.

Not sure why you are talking about nonsense like Islamophobia. I don't think any political party in this country should he engaging in sectarian politics. I would prefer a Labour victory over that sort of rubbish and that's before you mention the legalisation of drugs and sex work etc.

I really don't think one bye election in a seat that has voted left wing for over 100 years with a large Muslim population and accusation of family voting and sectarian politics tells us much about the politics of the rest of the country to be honest. Commentators will be desperate to extrapolate though whoever had won. I think it does show how even traditional Labour voters feel betrayed and loathe the prime minister though.

I think the local elections in may will tell us a lot more about where we are. The temptation is to extrapolate what happened here to have a wider significance.

I'm not sure we can read anything much into the results of one bye election. I would say it's a depressing glimpse intoba future where a party can have electoral success in traditionally left wing parts of the country by appealing to sectarian concerns. I'd have rather Labour won it to be honest.

I don't think it's bad enough yet for anyone to really do much about it. Even reform don't want to go too far because they wont attract a more moderate voter that they need if they want to win anything. Israel Palestine has sped things up a bit. I don't think anyone would get elected who would do what needs doing.

If it wasn't my country and I wasn't emotionally invested I'd find it quite interesting to see how the current people in power act as the rise in sectarian politics becomes impossible to ignore. If democracy gets subverted and some regions start voting for things that are against our way of life what realistically can be done? If it has democratic weight behind it it will be pretty difficult to stop.

It's only a matter of time before the sectarian vote coalesces into their own party and that's when it will really be depressing with block voting and campaign ads in a different language. The Greens may have a temporary boost for now by appealing to the but that won't last and naive of them if they think it will. They will go for another Gaza supporting, Jew hating party that doesn't want to legalise all drugs and support drag queen story hour

Unfortunately to a lot of sectarian voters, the Green's stance on Gaza means they don't give a toss what their other policies are.

Did they give her plastic surgery? I assume she isn't allowed to have kids.

If we get playoffs you'd think that Scienza would have a shout for team of the season.

Prediction for Gorton and Denton? I reckon after all the hype Labour will win it probably more comfortably than suggested but with a vastly reduced majority which they can still spin as a significant win. Reform in second would be a victory of sorts for them given how much of a Labour stronghold this seat was. If the Greens win then it's a thoroughly depressing state of affairs given how sectarian their campaign has been.

Disagree. I'd rather he carried on living to suffer longer.

Plenty of people enjoy a quick stroke now again. No excuse for poor spelling. 😁

Agreed. He's broadly performing in line with my expectations. I wouldn't say we are massively outperforming anything, simply others have underperformed. We were massively below expectations and now we are where we should be. He still gets significant credit for that though to be fair. Shame we had to have the zero wins in seven in the middle of things though.

It might be harsh but I still don't think we have been overly convincing. I think really he has got us performing roughly how we should be given we have a host of players that would get in virtually every squad in the division. He still deserves credit though, particularly for turning us around after the drop off in form. We look better in comparison to others because in truth no one has really run away with things, especially after Coventry shit the bed recently.

I've always enjoyed my time in Florence. A bit more laid back than Rome.

They're happier today

Someone pointed out that our good run of form has coincided pretty well with our new assistant manager. Might just be a coincidence but I wonder if he's had a positive influence behind the scenes?

Edit wrong thread! Larin was great though today. Really proving initial impressions before he signed wrong. Something I love to see.

I didn't mention anything about the scoreline.

Indeed. If we keep winning we could make up that points difference quite quickly. Not counting any chickens of course but it's not massively unlikely.

I'm not sure how we will manage that. Next season should be much harder. TBF he was probably one game from the sack after hull.

I don't really give a fuck what some random sky sports pundits think. They didn't test our keeper much but they had the better of the play for a fair amount of time after we scored the first.